Crossing the border before 30 consecutive days are over and then crossing back again to maintain SSI benefits?

[mf888]

So you would not be maintaining a residence in either California or Washington or anywhere in the US? Visiting the US does not mean that you live in the US. And unless you are paying rent somewhere each day, as a transient, you would also have a reduced SSI benefit because you are living rent free. You certainly would not be entitled the California SSI state supplement just because you set foot in California once a month. And some of these border crossings, maybe all, will be reported to SSI by ICE.

No, you misunderstood. I live in California and maintain a constant residence there. However, I want to visit Canada for 2 months, so I thought if I fly to Bellingham and cross the border back and forth, I would not be doing anything wrong and could maintain my ssi

 

[mf888]

How you are traveling does not answer why.

The why matters.

To visit family in Canada for longer than a month

 

[not2cleverRed]

That's exactly what I was thinking as well. How would they know? And even if they do, I am not doing anything wrong if I am not out of the country for more than 30 consecutive days, correct?

You have been told by another more knowledgable member exactly how this might be tracked.

But I'll play: if you think it can't be tracked, are you ready to have to go through the mess of proving that you were out of the country for less than 30 days after they stop your benefits? You can't have it both ways.

You can call it what you want, but as long as I am technically not out the country for 30 consecutive days, no blame can be held against me

Here's the thing: the point of the rules is that you are to maintain a presence in the US. You endanger that be trying this stunt.

You are going by the layman's version of the rules. There are frequently more subtle rules addressing the actions of those trying to game the system. I would consult a legal specialist, or better yet, the SSA, before trying this.

 

[mf888]

You have been told by another more knowledgable member exactly how this might be tracked.

But I'll play: if you think it can't be tracked, are you ready to have to go through the mess of proving that you were out of the country for less than 30 days after they stop your benefits? You can't have it both ways.



Here's the thing: the point of the rules is that you are to maintain a presence in the US. You endanger that be trying this stunt.

You are going by the layman's version of the rules. There are frequently more subtle rules addressing the actions of those trying to game the system. I would consult a legal specialist, or better yet, the SSA, before trying this.

I would make sure to buy stuff at Bellingham and keep receipts and transaction records to have proof that I was indeed in the country before a month was over. I get that it might be tracked but I'm just trying to figure out why I would be doing anything wrong, if I'm still keeping the rules by not being out of the US for more than 30 days. Anyways, thanks for your reply and I will take all your opinions/advice into consideration.

 

[mf888]

You have been told by another more knowledgable member exactly how this might be tracked.

But I'll play: if you think it can't be tracked, are you ready to have to go through the mess of proving that you were out of the country for less than 30 days after they stop your benefits? You can't have it both ways.



Here's the thing: the point of the rules is that you are to maintain a presence in the US. You endanger that be trying this stunt.

You are going by the layman's version of the rules. There are frequently more subtle rules addressing the actions of those trying to game the system. I would consult a legal specialist, or better yet, the SSA, before trying this.

Sorry one more thing I want to say: dont you feel like it's unfair that I am not even allowed to see my family for more than 30 days just because of SSI. Before I got SSI I was able to travel back and forth and stay as long as I like. Im not a criminal, I'm just trying to see my family for a little longer than a month; is that such a crime?

 

[quincy]

Sorry one more thing I want to say: dont you feel like it's unfair that I am not even allowed to see my family for more than 30 days just because of SSI. Before I got SSI I was able to travel back and forth and stay as long as I like. Im not a criminal, I'm just trying to see my family for a little longer than a month; is that such a crime?

Can't your family travel to see you?

 

[PayrollHRGuy]

I think it is fair for the US Government to not pay for your out of country vacations.

 

[Zigner]

Sorry one more thing I want to say: dont you feel like it's unfair that I am not even allowed to see my family for more than 30 days just because of SSI. Before I got SSI I was able to travel back and forth and stay as long as I like. Im not a criminal, I'm just trying to see my family for a little longer than a month; is that such a crime?

It might be. I believe that it's time for you to make a choice.

 

[Zigner]

I think it is fair for the US Government to not pay for your out of country vacations.

Fixed it for ya

 

[not2cleverRed]

Sorry one more thing I want to say: dont you feel like it's unfair that I am not even allowed to see my family for more than 30 days just because of SSI. Before I got SSI I was able to travel back and forth and stay as long as I like. Im not a criminal, I'm just trying to see my family for a little longer than a month; is that such a crime?

It's not a crime.

It just means that during the time t hat you fail to maintain a presence in the US, you should not receive a federal help to cover your living expenses. Why can't your Canadian relatives support you?

 

[mf888]

It's not a crime.

It just means that during the time t hat you fail to maintain a presence in the US, you should not receive a federal help to cover your living expenses. Why can't your Canadian relatives support you?

I see. So I just have to cancel it and apply for t again when I come back

 

[mf888]

It might be. I believe that it's time for you to make a choice.

Ok I understand now, thanks.

Can't your family travel to see you?

They can but they can't stay more than 2 weeks because they have work/school,etc

 

[Zigner]

I see. So I just have to cancel it and apply for t again when I come back

What compels you to spend two full months "visiting" said relatives?

 

[mf888]

I think it is fair for the US Government to not pay for your out of country vacations.

Ok I understand

What compels you to spend two full months "visiting" said relatives?

theyre my children/grandchildren. And I love to stay with them for a long time becaus that's where I'm happiest. If I could stay with them for even more than that I would

 

[PayrollHRGuy]

Ok I understand

theyre my children/grandchildren. And I love to stay with them for a long time becaus that's where I'm happiest. If I could stay with them for even more than that I would

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