Dad is a jerk off literally

[KPOST]

What is so appalling about it? What makes you believe that it's appalling to "most people"?

Okay, I don't know how it works at your house, maybe open masturbation is normal for your family. I assure you it is not in mine. Try this once. Go and get sloppy can't stand up drunk then fondle yourself while watching porn on your phone in your families living room, let your family walk in unexpectedly and see their reactions. Probably appalled correct? As (In my opinion) most "normal" people would be. Is aroused nudity and porn normal in your household living room? Or do you at least go to a private place to take care of that business. I'm not trying to be mean or anything by saying any of this to you. Just think about how this would feel to you if it were your child. The act of masturbating is absolutely normal and healthy and my son knows that. What I'm not okay with is his dad doing that when My minor child can walk in.

 

[xylene]

So far CPS has been next to helpless.

That's because they aren't going to do anything about a non-issue.

The police report is gonna say.

"Kid called mom, who reported masturbation on the couch."

 

[KPOST]

That's because they aren't going to do anything about a non-issue.

The police report is gonna say.

"Kid called mom, who reported masturbation on the couch."

Not quite. The Michigan State Police officer called CPS. I didn't.

 

[Just Blue]

Not quite. The Michigan State Police officer called CPS. I didn't.

Honestly the very best thing you can do for your son is therapy. He needs to learn coping skills.

 

[KPOST]

Honestly the very best thing you can do for your son is therapy. He needs to learn coping skills.

Thank you. He has his 3rd session on Monday.
The therapist doesn't have anything nice to say about the behavior either. None of this "it's normal" stuff or "It's a non issue" like some on here. She is not amused in the slightest nor does she think it is normal or "acceptable" behavior for a dad to be masturbating in common areas of the house when children are home.

Side note. No offence given or implied but have you ever notice the spelling of therapist? The rapist. Funny and not at the same time.

 

[KPOST]

Hi Ohiogal,

I have been looking for the form to file for orders prohibiting anyone from consuming alcohol while my son is in their custody. I also called my CPS case worker and she is unaware of this form.
Do you have a reference, site forum or form that you would be willing to share with me? I would really appreciate it as this sounds like the way to go.
It's the drunkenness that my son really dislikes about his dad. He doesn't want to be forced to see him anymore and we were hoping there was something we could do if his behavior was illegal. I'm seeking full custody so the "force to see him" part can go away and my son can decide if he wants to go there. My ex keeps doing the, "it's my right to see him if he wants to see me or not" It is his right but what kind of parent forces their kid to see them in duress? That in my book would be child abuse but I obviously don't know anything yet.

Thank you for your time!

 

[Shadowbunny]

Thank you. He has his 3rd session on Monday.
The therapist doesn't have anything nice to say about the behavior either. None of this "it's normal" stuff or "It's a non issue" like some on here. She is not amused in the slightest nor does she think it is normal or "acceptable" behavior for a dad to be masturbating in common areas of the house when children are home.

This is a legal forum, not a therapy forum. You asked about the legality, not the morality, of the situation. You are getting your knickers in a twist about the wrong thing. Rather than focusing on the masturbation, you should be focusing on the drinking to excess.

 

[Zigner]

Hi Ohiogal,

I have been looking for the form to file for orders prohibiting anyone from consuming alcohol while my son is in their custody. I also called my CPS case worker and she is unaware of this form.
Do you have a reference, site forum or form that you would be willing to share with me? I would really appreciate it as this sounds like the way to go.
It's the drunkenness that my son really dislikes about his dad. He doesn't want to be forced to see him anymore and we were hoping there was something we could do if his behavior was illegal. I'm seeking full custody so the "force to see him" part can go away and my son can decide if he wants to go there. My ex keeps doing the, "it's my right to see him if he wants to see me or not" It is his right but what kind of parent forces their kid to see them in duress? That in my book would be child abuse but I obviously don't know anything yet.

Thank you for your time!

Not everything has a form. This site doesn't provide referrals. You may wish to consult with an attorney for assistance.

PS: Dad is right. It's not abuse for the child to be required to see their parent.

 

[KPOST]

What makes you believe that there was any child endangerment?
What makes you believe that you are entitled to see the report?

Question. Is it endangerment if I am too drunk to handle an emergency situation while in the charge of a minor? If I were so drunk that I couldn't answer the door when the Police pound on the door and bang on windows around my house. This was before 2100 hours or 9:00 p.m. Would I be able to handle a 911 call or drive my son to a hospital? Would you consider it endangerment or neglect? It sounds like it to me. I don't know so I'm asking. Not being "snarky"
It was said in a post that I'm being snarky. I'm really not trying to be I'm simply trying to get educated on this issue so I can feel peace and I can know what to expect in the future if something like this happens again. I have been asked why I don't know the laws on this. That is why I am here, not to stir the pot and upset people.

I value your answer.

 

[Eekamouse]

If the kid was like a toddler or under the age of 10, I'd be very concerned about a drunken parent in charge of the child but the child is 11. He's not like to do something so stupid or dangerous that the parent in charge needs to be sober at all times. I do think the dad shouldn't be that drunk in front of his child though.

 

[KPOST]

Not everything has a form. This site doesn't provide referrals. You may wish to consult with an attorney for assistance.

PS: Dad is right. It's not abuse for the child to be required to see their parent.

This was just my opinion, I know he has legal rights to my son, I think it's destructive to force a child into a situation where he feels no love, even if his dad really does love him he has a weird way of showing it and my son can't see the love from him. I know it's just my thought/opinion and not the law.

Thank you Zinger. I appreciate your answer. I was hoping to not have to spend money I don't have and can't afford to spend on a lawyer. I am learning a lot here. Thank you all for this. I haven't had to deal with the law or courts ever before. It can be and seems like a lot of hard searching. Thank you for the beginning of my legal education.

 

[Ohiogal]

Hi Ohiogal,

I have been looking for the form to file for orders prohibiting anyone from consuming alcohol while my son is in their custody. I also called my CPS case worker and she is unaware of this form.
Do you have a reference, site forum or form that you would be willing to share with me? I would really appreciate it as this sounds like the way to go.
It's the drunkenness that my son really dislikes about his dad. He doesn't want to be forced to see him anymore and we were hoping there was something we could do if his behavior was illegal. I'm seeking full custody so the "force to see him" part can go away and my son can decide if he wants to go there. My ex keeps doing the, "it's my right to see him if he wants to see me or not" It is his right but what kind of parent forces their kid to see them in duress? That in my book would be child abuse but I obviously don't know anything yet.

Thank you for your time!

There is not a form for everything. But it would be a modification of the parenting plan to add this phrase. Even with full custody, YOUR SON WILL NOT BE ABLE TO CHOOSE and you will not be able to allow him to choose. Why do you think he would be able to choose? He is 11.

 

[Ohiogal]

Question. Is it endangerment if I am too drunk to handle an emergency situation while in the charge of a minor? If I were so drunk that I couldn't answer the door when the Police pound on the door and bang on windows around my house. This was before 2100 hours or 9:00 p.m. Would I be able to handle a 911 call or drive my son to a hospital? Would you consider it endangerment or neglect? It sounds like it to me. I don't know so I'm asking. Not being "snarky"
It was said in a post that I'm being snarky. I'm really not trying to be I'm simply trying to get educated on this issue so I can feel peace and I can know what to expect in the future if something like this happens again. I have been asked why I don't know the laws on this. That is why I am here, not to stir the pot and upset people.

I value your answer.

The law doesn't work on what ifs. The law works on -- if he had to drive the child to a hospital and couldn't. THEN it would be but just getting drunk around a child is NOT endangerment. There was not an emergency. Except one that you made by calling the police. And NO ONE has to answer the door for police. NO ONE. EVER. Drunk or sober.

 

[Ohiogal]

This was just my opinion, I know he has legal rights to my son, I think it's destructive to force a child into a situation where he feels no love, even if his dad really does love him he has a weird way of showing it and my son can't see the love from him. I know it's just my thought/opinion and not the law.

Thank you Zinger. I appreciate your answer. I was hoping to not have to spend money I don't have and can't afford to spend on a lawyer. I am learning a lot here. Thank you all for this. I haven't had to deal with the law or courts ever before. It can be and seems like a lot of hard searching. Thank you for the beginning of my legal education.

He has legal rights to HIS son. And yes it is your thought/opinion and not the law that dad doesn't show love. He doesn't show love the way YOU want him to.

 

[Ohiogal]

It's not the way "I want him to. None of this is what I want. My son asked me to protect him from his dad. No nickers in a bunch here. This is your second reply like this. You may want to check yours for knots though.

Really? You are coming at me when I was trying to help you? You are on your own now. Hire an attorney.