Depositions

[Whyte Noise]

Yes, you are correct. Especially in this Christian dominated society, it's hard for anyone to see the concept of other paths, mainly Goddess Tradition/Paganism.
However, if dad is soooo Christian, it could be said that celebrating Christmas, Easter, Halloween, etc. are Pagan Holidays, therefore he has excepted that way of life for their children.

SHHHHHHHHHHHHH

You're not supposed to know that!

I'm Wiccan, and my children are baptized in the Christian faith. Southern Baptist to be more precise. Guess what? I still Celbrate the major Christian Holidays with them (Christmas, Easter, etc.). I just also have my own, personal observance of the counterpart of those same holidays.

 

[CJane]

SHHHHHHHHHHHHH

You're not supposed to know that!

I'm Wiccan, and my children are baptized in the Christian faith. Southern Baptist to be more precise. Guess what? I still Celbrate the major Christian Holidays with them (Christmas, Easter, etc.). I just also have my own, personal observance of the counterpart of those same holidays.

My oldest was baptized in a Lutheran church when she was 3 weeks old. My youngest, by a Lutheran pastor in the home of my in-laws (since neither me nor the ex belonged to a church at the time) when she was 5 weeks old.

I have always encouraged them to attend Wednesday night youth group stuff at the local churches, as well as taken them to church whenever they ask, etc. IMO (and clearly I'm wrong) MY own personal spirituality is irrelevant to this or any other proceeding.

But, here's an interesting question...

My attorney (yes, the one we all think I should fire) said that since 'legal custody' isn't defined in our order (ie: it doesn't say anything about what WE mean by legal custody) then I could be held in contempt of court for not taking my kids to church on MY Sundays if the ex says that he ever asked me to do so.

 

[brisgirl825]

SHHHHHHHHHHHHH

You're not supposed to know that!

I'm Wiccan, and my children are baptized in the Christian faith. Southern Baptist to be more precise. Guess what? I still Celbrate the major Christian Holidays with them (Christmas, Easter, etc.). I just also have my own, personal observance of the counterpart of those same holidays.

HEHE!! I often wonder what Christians would think if they knew that stuff! How can one not want to know why rabbits, egg, etc. are a part of Easter? Where the name came from and why they time it the way they do?
There are so many things that don't make sense there. If Christians understood it, maybe they would focus on the similarities of the paths and stop thinking of Paganism as portrayed on TV!

 

[brisgirl825]

But, here's an interesting question...

My attorney (yes, the one we all think I should fire) said that since 'legal custody' isn't defined in our order (ie: it doesn't say anything about what WE mean by legal custody) then I could be held in contempt of court for not taking my kids to church on MY Sundays if the ex says that he ever asked me to do so.

He doesn't get to say what you do on your time, whether it's joint or sole custody, unless the order states you are supposed to take them to church.

Are you sure your atty passed the BAR?

 

[CJane]

Are you sure your atty passed the BAR?

I'm beginning to wonder...

 

[brisgirl825]

I'm beginning to wonder...

You need to be going with your instinct and what the others here have advised...you need to dump him/her like a bad habit.
Do you qualify for legal aid?

 

[CJane]

You need to be going with your instinct and what the others here have advised...you need to dump him/her like a bad habit.
Do you qualify for legal aid?

I seriously doubt that I do, and usually they'll refuse custody cases anyway.

I'm waiting for a return phone call from my step-mother's attorney. Apparently, he's quite the pit-bull and a judge to boot. We'll see if I hear from him.

 

[brisgirl825]

I seriously doubt that I do, and usually they'll refuse custody cases anyway.

I'm waiting for a return phone call from my step-mother's attorney. Apparently, he's quite the pit-bull and a judge to boot. We'll see if I hear from him.

Hopefully that will work out for you. If you decide you need some helpful literature on the religious issues that might arise, let me know. I have some scholarly books, I can recommend, that are just about what things are and aren't.

Good luck...

 

[You Are Guilty]

Just to clarify something - I can ask any question I want at a deposition. So if I asked you "if it was safe to assume that you haven't stopped making beastiality videos", if you actually answered it, that's not my fault. So if you had an actual licensed attorney sitting next to you who let you answer the questions listed, you have a right to complain to the state bar. If your attorney objected and "blocked" you from answering the questions, then there is nothing amiss. That's what objections are for.

I'd love to see that transcript though.

 

[CJane]

Just to clarify something - I can ask any question I want at a deposition. So if I asked you "if it was safe to assume that you haven't stopped making beastiality videos", if you actually answered it, that's not my fault. So if you had an actual licensed attorney sitting next to you who let you answer the questions listed, you have a right to complain to the state bar. If your attorney objected and "blocked" you from answering the questions, then there is nothing amiss. That's what objections are for.

I'd love to see that transcript though.

Ah, but see, that's where I'm confused. Both my current attorney and my past attorney have told me that they can object based on relevancy - but I HAVE TO ANSWER THE QUESTION.

For example: Last deposition the ex's attorney asked me for the passwords to all of my email accounts/forum accounts/etc. I refused to give him the information and my attorney read me the riot act for almost an hour afterward.

My current attorney told me that no matter what the question is, I MUST answer.

Which leads me to wonder about things like my fiance. I have nothing to hide where he's concerned, but I don't feel as if i should be forced to answer questions that pertain to his past when I wasn't there. Is it safe to say "I'm sorry, I have no personal knowledge of that and you'd have to ask him?"

 

[LdiJ]

Ah, but see, that's where I'm confused. Both my current attorney and my past attorney have told me that they can object based on relevancy - but I HAVE TO ANSWER THE QUESTION.

For example: Last deposition the ex's attorney asked me for the passwords to all of my email accounts/forum accounts/etc. I refused to give him the information and my attorney read me the riot act for almost an hour afterward.

My current attorney told me that no matter what the question is, I MUST answer.

Which leads me to wonder about things like my fiance. I have nothing to hide where he's concerned, but I don't feel as if i should be forced to answer questions that pertain to his past when I wasn't there. Is it safe to say "I'm sorry, I have no personal knowledge of that and you'd have to ask him?"

No way to you have to release information like personal passwords for email etc., Your attorney was completely wrong not to back you up on that. That is one more strike against this attorney as far as I am concerned.

On the other issue, I would change that to : "I do not have the direct knowledge to answer that question. You would need to ask him."

 

[CJane]

No way to you have to release information like personal passwords for email etc., Your attorney was completely wrong not to back you up on that. That is one more strike against this attorney as far as I am concerned.

This was the attorney that handled my divorce. The same one who told me to settle out of court (giving the ex legal custody) if I wanted to be able to move out of his house within the next year. The same one who told me that she knew the parenting plan was written terribly and would be difficult to follow, but to sign it and file for a modification in 12 months. You get the idea.

My current attorney has only said "You must answer every question or you'll be sanctioned by the judge."

 

[Zephyr]

No way to you have to release information like personal passwords for email etc., Your attorney was completely wrong not to back you up on that. That is one more strike against this attorney as far as I am concerned.


Totally 100% agree with this, why in the world would they think it is ok for you to provide information that gives your ex access to any types of accounts.

asking for bank account info is one thing, he gets the info but he can't modify the account or what is in it, but passwords gives hime total control over your accounts. idiocy...

 

[LdiJ]

This was the attorney that handled my divorce. The same one who told me to settle out of court (giving the ex legal custody) if I wanted to be able to move out of his house within the next year. The same one who told me that she knew the parenting plan was written terribly and would be difficult to follow, but to sign it and file for a modification in 12 months. You get the idea.

My current attorney has only said "You must answer every question or you'll be sanctioned by the judge."

Saying that you can't answer the question because you don't have direct knowledge is answering.

I SINCERELY doubt that a judge would sanction someone for refusing to reveal email passwords etc.

 

[CJane]

Saying that you can't answer the question because you don't have direct knowledge is answering.

I SINCERELY doubt that a judge would sanction someone for refusing to reveal email passwords etc.

Ok. So, if I don't believe that a question is pertinent to the case (if my attorney doesn't object) can I ask HOW it's relevant? And any information that would allow the ex access to my 'personal information' ie: email accounts (which would also contain passwords to bank accounts/etc) should be off-limits? What about my activities when I don't have the kids with me?