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Diluted alcholic beverages

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HappyHusband

Senior Member
1000Sparks said:
(h) Diluting Liquor

No person shall dilute or add to any fermented malt beverage or intoxicating liquor for the purpose of selling or offering the same for sale from or in any original container. Possession of any original container containing any fermented malt beverage or intoxicating liquor so diluted or added to shall be prima facie proof that the possessor thereof intended to violate the provisions of this subsection.


This is kinda vague. What's this "prima facie proof"? Can't seem to find where there is a fine just that they can't do this. See?

Dang, I should be a lawyer.
(8) SALE FROM ORIGINAL CONTAINER. (a) A person convicted
of any of the following prohibited activities shall be fined not less
than $150 nor more than $500 or imprisoned not less than 60 days
nor more than 6 months or both:
1. Diluting any intoxicating liquor for purposes of sale as
undiluted intoxicating liquor.
2. Refilling any original container which had previously been
used for intoxicating liquor containing 21% or more of alcohol by
volume.
3. Possessing diluted intoxicating liquor or refilled original
containers on any premises covered by a “Class A” or “Class C”
license or “Class B” license or permit.
(b) Possession of an original container which contains diluted
intoxicating liquor or which has been refilled is prima facie evidence
of intent to violate this subsection.
Cross Reference: See also s. Tax 8.43, Wis. adm. code.

125.11 Penalties. (1) GENERAL PENALTY. Any person who
violates any provision of this chapter for which a specific penalty
is not provided, shall be fined not more than $1,000 or imprisoned
for not more than 90 days or both. Any license or permit issued
to the person under this chapter may be revoked by the court.
(2) FELONY. If a person is convicted of a felony under this
chapter, in addition to the penalties provided for the felony, the
court shall revoke any license or permit issued to the person under
this chapter.
 
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Thank you

HomeGuru said:
**A: yes, you drink as much as some of them.
Chances are I drink more but we don't know that for sure.

Thanks HappyHusband for the info....

Gonna print it out and let lay it around at some of these establishments.

One more question???? Who checks on these places for doing this (other than me)?
 

You Are Guilty

Senior Member
1000Sparks said:
Chances are I drink more but we don't know that for sure.

Thanks HappyHusband for the info....

Gonna print it out and let lay it around at some of these establishments.

One more question???? Who checks on these places for doing this (other than me)?
Captain Morgan of the Beverage Enforcement Division and his associate Jack Daniels.
 

panzertanker

Senior Member
1000Sparks said:
I could understand doing this to someone who was drunk.

Thank you.
Then perhaps you should take a look at yourself, and your alcoholic beverage consumption, and ponder the question:
Maybe I am too drunk to realize that this is not a watered down drink?

:rolleyes:

What PROOF (80, 90, 100) do you have that they are actually watering the liquor down?
Have you had it analyzed to verify your highly trained alcohol tastebuds?
 
No, not quite right

panzertanker said:
Then perhaps you should take a look at yourself, and your alcoholic beverage consumption, and ponder the question:
Maybe I am too drunk to realize that this is not a watered down drink?

:rolleyes:

What PROOF (80, 90, 100) do you have that they are actually watering the liquor down?
Have you had it analyzed to verify your highly trained alcohol tastebuds?

If I was drunk I wouldn't care if they gave me peppermint. I can tell whenn I get the first drink...it's watered big time.

I have no proof other than my expertise at knowing what 1, 2, 3 or 10 shots do to me.

Why else would someone want a drink other than to feel a little buzz, relax, and be able to talk with immense intelligence?

My last question was "who do I contact to do the REAL analysis of this diluting fiasco"...

State "Bar" Association??

Thank you.
 

panzertanker

Senior Member
1000Sparks said:
If I was drunk I wouldn't care if they gave me peppermint. I can tell whenn I get the first drink...it's watered big time.

I have no proof other than my expertise at knowing what 1, 2, 3 or 10 shots do to me.

Why else would someone want a drink other than to feel a little buzz, relax, and be able to talk with immense intelligence?

My last question was "who do I contact to do the REAL analysis of this diluting fiasco"...

State "Bar" Association??

Thank you.
The state liquor licensing board.
 

TKE318

Junior Member
No doubt against the law in any state. Im sure if someone brought it to the attention of the ATF they would be interested. I would do a straight shot of vodka to see if they are watering it down. I would think it would be hard to tell if there was another mixture in the glass.

Happy drinking
 
Oh yes

TKE318 said:
No doubt against the law in any state. Im sure if someone brought it to the attention of the ATF they would be interested. I would do a straight shot of vodka to see if they are watering it down. I would think it would be hard to tell if there was another mixture in the glass.

Happy drinking
I have done the straight shot thing and let my guests taste it too. They all laughed cause there is no doubt it's watered down.

They also water down their Meyers Rum.

When I check for my state, all I can find is the State Revenue Service..ha hga.... you'd think they'd like it being diluted cause I'm sure the owners are paying twice for sales tax...

Does the ATF get involved in a little country place that does this? Oh, I know of others that do this too, but this is kind of my stomping ground.
 

shortbus

Member
You realize of course that if you bring any enforcement authority down on your "friend's" bar, you will never be welcome there again.
 
yeh, I know that

shortbus said:
You realize of course that if you bring any enforcement authority down on your "friend's" bar, you will never be welcome there again.
and if I didn't tell or they didn't tell on me I'm sure it would be written all over my face.

I might wanna do this to some of the establishments I done often frequent.

It's just not right but something I guess I'm just gonna have to deal with.

thank you.
 

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