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ellencee

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OneSon said:
As of matter of fact, this isn't about the money. The only thing that I want is to not be charged for something that didn't have to happen. Why should I pay for a Dr and Dr.'s for their mistakes. You don't expect for them to pay me**************....right? They are Dr.s for a reason and that's to provide the medical care of a patient and when they mess up they are not held liable for their flaws or accidents or mistakes, which ever you prefer to use.

This isn't a ambulance chasing story. Like I said I'm not out to tarnish his reputation or hurt him professionally, but I'm not the only "mistake" he has made. He's getting on up in his age and he doesn't need to perform surgeries like this if he doesn't know how to handle them when something goes wrong.

The lack of communication and service on his part is what I'm questioning. I asked the appropriate questions as I have been a health care patient for alot of years so I know what to ask and if I feel that my questions are answered to my standards then we proceed. Because he didn't perform this surgery in the best way, it leaves me to question if I should file a law suit. And the key word is "question"
Oh, go away. Fill your time going from lawyer to lawyer and yelling at them. Just go away.:p
EC
 


abaga

Member
OneSon said:
As of matter of fact, this isn't about the money. The only thing that I want is to not be charged for something that didn't have to happen. Why should I pay for a Dr and Dr.'s for their mistakes. You don't expect for them to pay me**************....right? They are Dr.s for a reason and that's to provide the medical care of a patient and when they mess up they are not held liable for their flaws or accidents or mistakes, which ever you prefer to use.

This isn't a ambulance chasing story. Like I said I'm not out to tarnish his reputation or hurt him professionally, but I'm not the only "mistake" he has made. He's getting on up in his age and he doesn't need to perform surgeries like this if he doesn't know how to handle them when something goes wrong.

The lack of communication and service on his part is what I'm questioning. I asked the appropriate questions as I have been a health care patient for alot of years so I know what to ask and if I feel that my questions are answered to my standards then we proceed. Because he didn't perform this surgery in the best way, it leaves me to question if I should file a law suit. And the key word is "question"
This has nothing to do with money?? Really?? Why is it then you want the bill cleared? THAT IS MONEY! Bottom line is your Dr. saved your life. Why any of us are bothering trying to impress that fact upon you is beyond me as you don't seem to give a rats a$$ about that significant part. You were more interested in your MD allowing you to BLEED while he went out to have a conversation with your husband. Have you no idea what that would entail too? He has to scrub out, go talk to your husband, scrub back in and start again. YOU WERE BLEEDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What makes you think you could just lay there and bleed and not bleed to death???

So, if you think this is a lawsuit for you, then why are you even here asking??? Go find yourself an attorney and sue the pants off the jerk for saving your life...after all, what a horrid thing he did for you.

Someone else said it and they were so very right...YOU ARE UNGRATEFUL!
 

OneSon

Junior Member
ellencee said:
Oh, go away. Fill your time going from lawyer to lawyer and yelling at them. Just go away.:p
EC

I have an idea......Why don't you remove yourself from the thread I started. Your comments here are no longer of any interest to me. You sound like to be a very bitter person that has nothing else to do besides come to a forum such as this to vent.

Don't concern yourself about what I'm doing. It's not your business.....So with that said, YOU just go away. It's as simple as that! Fill your time with something else besides arguing on these threads.

(Which by the way my thread isn't the only one where you've said sly and smart ass remarks on.) You must be one miserable person. That's all I have to say to you. :p
 

abaga

Member
OneSon said:
I have an idea......Why don't you remove yourself from the thread I started. Your comments here are no longer of any interest to me. You sound like to be a very bitter person that has nothing else to do besides come to a forum such as this to vent.

Don't concern yourself about what I'm doing. It's not your business.....So with that said, YOU just go away. It's as simple as that! Fill your time with something else besides arguing on these threads.

(Which by the way my thread isn't the only one where you've said sly and smart ass remarks on.) You must be one miserable person. That's all I have to say to you. :p
You are just being hateful because you are not hearing what you want to hear. You yourself are pretty miserable if all you want to do is ruin someones career because they saved your life! You signed a consent that said surgery may cause "disfiguration." Don't say yours didn't say that either. I've had many surgeries over the years and in each and every one, it is in there...may not be what the Dr. wrote in himself/herself, but it is in the preprinted consent. Are you going to blame your Dr. for your lack of reading skills? Oh, what a silly question. You are blaming him for saving your life before having a "conversation" about what to do. You even mentioned in an earlier post about had he asked your husband he would have consented to a hyst. I could see it now....you'd sue him over that too because he didn't wake you to ask you first!

I am saying this sincerely...get some Psychological Counseling. You have to know how incredibly insane it is to expect an MD to go out and have a conversation while he leaves a patient bleeding on the table!
 

OneSon

Junior Member
abaga said:
This has nothing to do with money?? Really?? Why is it then you want the bill cleared? THAT IS MONEY! Bottom line is your Dr. saved your life. Why any of us are bothering trying to impress that fact upon you is beyond me as you don't seem to give a rats a$$ about that significant part. You were more interested in your MD allowing you to BLEED while he went out to have a conversation with your husband. Have you no idea what that would entail too? He has to scrub out, go talk to your husband, scrub back in and start again. YOU WERE BLEEDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What makes you think you could just lay there and bleed and not bleed to death???

So, if you think this is a lawsuit for you, then why are you even here asking??? Go find yourself an attorney and sue the pants off the jerk for saving your life...after all, what a horrid thing he did for you.

Someone else said it and they were so very right...YOU ARE UNGRATEFUL!

For one, the bill isn't my fault. It's the Dr.'s. He's the one that made the so called "mistake". I can guarantee you if I went into his office and "accidently" broke some equipment, or whatever, he would want me to pay for it. So grab some common sense.

For another, you weren't in there when the Dr. made the cut and slipped. You don't know how much blood was lost or even if it was a life or death situation. Your speculating and commenting on something that doesn't have anything to do with you, unless I overlooked you being part of the staff**************....I had to be a smart ass didn't I? Oh well****************************.

The Dr. talking to my husband wouldn't have been a "conversation" it would be "consent."

Being grateful or not isn't the question here. I'll bet he's grateful to get paid isn't he? It's my body and when someone makes a surgical mistake such as this one it's me who has to live with it and pay for it. When there are other avenues to take I expect for someone to consult with me and if I'm under from the medication, that next person would be my husband.

What makes you an expert on the "significant" part? This question is not about that. Like I've said over and over, it was NOT a life or death situation. I wasn't going to bleed to death by any means. So I don't consider this as bleeding to death. He clamped it until he got the instrument he was using out so he could proceed to make an icision that was from the top of my belly button down to my pelvic line. So you tell me what the reason for that type of incision was for Ms/Mr know it all? See, you didn't read the question and the curcumstances. You just jumped off telling me that I don't get the point. Well I've got it, you don't. I beleive it was me in there, not you**************..

See all in all there are alot of people posting opinions about this and taking and adding to the story. One simple question with a short explanation of the situation is all the info I gave. It's hard to be grateful when someone which happens to be a Dr. in this case makes a decision and then does it sloppy to cover his/her mistake.

There's a big difference when something like this occurs. It happens all over the world and to ask a honest and simple question such as "do I have a medical malpractice case?" doesn't constitute for slander of a person's self being and making false opinions. You don't know me and you weren't there so I think it's time you shut your mouth and go to another thread where maybe you could actually help someone else ANSWER a QUESTION and not post an OPINION. Your comments mean nothing to me. So give it up!!:p
 
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butterscotch

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Cryptogenic cirrhosis

It sounds like you believe the surgeon who removed your ovarian cyst made an unnecessary surgical incision after he performed his initial insertion (laparoscopy). The laparoscopy is a needle with a camera that you referenced. This device allows visualization of the contents of the cavity holding the uterus, tubes and ovaries. And while inserting this device you say he nicked an artery which caused his effort to visualize the bleeder and surgically tie it to stop the bleeding.

I sounds like an eXploratory incision was made to locate the origin of the bleeding. He had no option to do otherwise. What you believe is a careless surgical technique is likely his difficulty in accessing the site due to your particular situation.

If you are a liver transplant candidate you must know about the complications of liver failure. I would imagine you have edema of your abdomen as well some layers of fat (typical in non-alcoholic liver disease). If your liver is compromised, you have venous stasis (blood pooling) of some major blood vessels that return blood to your heart, all within the abdominal cavity he attempted to access. Making you a high risk for any type of abdominal surgery.

This scope or camera visualizes organs once inside the abdominal cavity. It doesn't guide navigation through skin, fat and muscle. It would be impossible to predict where you might run into an artery in your particular case. You have portal hypertension because of your liver disease and pressure inside your blood vessels is not normal.

The scar will fade. I am glad to hear that the bleeding did not go into your abdomen and he was able to do the surgery as planned. The insertion of air into the abdominal cavity is usually the cause of postop complaints. This is not abnormal.

I hope your transplant is successful.
 
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OneSon

Junior Member
butterscotch said:
It sounds like you believe the surgeon who removed your ovarian cyst made an unnecessary surgical incision after he performed his initial insertion (laparoscopy). The laparoscopy is a needle with a camera that you referenced. This device allows visualization of the contents of the cavity holding the uterus, tubes and ovaries. And while inserting this device you say he nicked an artery which caused his effort to visualize the bleeder and surgically tie it to stop the bleeding.

I sounds like an eXploratory incision was made to locate the origin of the bleeding. He had no option to do otherwise. What you believe is a careless surgical technique is likely his difficulty in accessing the site due to your particular situation.

If you are a liver transplant candidate you must know about the complications of liver failure. I would imagine you have edema of your abdomen as well some layers of fat (typical in non-alcoholic liver disease). If your liver is compromised, you have venous stasis (blood pooling) of some major blood vessels that return blood to your heart, all within the abdominal cavity he attempted to access. Making you a high risk for any type of abdominal surgery.

This scope or camera visualizes organs once inside the abdominal cavity. It doesn't guide navigation through skin, fat and muscle. It would be impossible to predict where you might run into an artery in your particular case. You have portal hypertension because of your liver disease and pressure inside your blood vessels is not normal.

The scar will fade. I am glad to hear that the bleeding did not go into your abdomen and he was able to do the surgery as planned. The insertion of air into the abdominal cavity is usually the cause of postop complaints. This is not abnormal.

I hope your transplant is successful.


Thank you for your reply. Now this reply makes sense and is not based on judgment call.

You took a situation and looked at it for it's reason of being asked and I appreciate that. I didn't post this question to cause all of this stir. Some people are just down right rude and unfeeling and the best thing for me to do is not to play into their hands.

So again, "thank you" for your reply and for wishing me a successful transplant. I am very fortunate to have such a wonderful transplant center and the support of all who know me.

Take care.:)
 

OneSon

Junior Member
seniorjudge said:
Q: Do I have a medical malpractice case?

A: Since you did not indicate any permanent and serious physical damages, no.

Thank you for your answer. Short and sweet. Take care.:)
 

abaga

Member
You are really showing your ignorance now..moreso than ever!

Breaking equipment in his office?? What reason in the world would have you to even be touching their equipment anyway? Come up with a better comparison next time!

I am not going to respond to another one of your immature, ungrateful postings! I am done!

OneSon said:
For one, the bill isn't my fault. It's the Dr.'s. He's the one that made the so called "mistake". I can guarantee you if I went into his office and "accidently" broke some equipment, or whatever, he would want me to pay for it. So grab some common sense.

For another, you weren't in there when the Dr. made the cut and slipped. You don't know how much blood was lost or even if it was a life or death situation. Your speculating and commenting on something that doesn't have anything to do with you, unless I overlooked you being part of the staff**************....I had to be a smart ass didn't I? Oh well****************************.

The Dr. talking to my husband wouldn't have been a "conversation" it would be "consent."

Being grateful or not isn't the question here. I'll bet he's grateful to get paid isn't he? It's my body and when someone makes a surgical mistake such as this one it's me who has to live with it and pay for it. When there are other avenues to take I expect for someone to consult with me and if I'm under from the medication, that next person would be my husband.

What makes you an expert on the "significant" part? This question is not about that. Like I've said over and over, it was NOT a life or death situation. I wasn't going to bleed to death by any means. So I don't consider this as bleeding to death. He clamped it until he got the instrument he was using out so he could proceed to make an icision that was from the top of my belly button down to my pelvic line. So you tell me what the reason for that type of incision was for Ms/Mr know it all? See, you didn't read the question and the curcumstances. You just jumped off telling me that I don't get the point. Well I've got it, you don't. I beleive it was me in there, not you**************..

See all in all there are alot of people posting opinions about this and taking and adding to the story. One simple question with a short explanation of the situation is all the info I gave. It's hard to be grateful when someone which happens to be a Dr. in this case makes a decision and then does it sloppy to cover his/her mistake.

There's a big difference when something like this occurs. It happens all over the world and to ask a honest and simple question such as "do I have a medical malpractice case?" doesn't constitute for slander of a person's self being and making false opinions. You don't know me and you weren't there so I think it's time you shut your mouth and go to another thread where maybe you could actually help someone else ANSWER a QUESTION and not post an OPINION. Your comments mean nothing to me. So give it up!!:p
 

OneSon

Junior Member
abaga said:
You are really showing your ignorance now..moreso than ever!

Breaking equipment in his office?? What reason in the world would have you to even be touching their equipment anyway? Come up with a better comparison next time!

I am not going to respond to another one of your immature, ungrateful postings! I am done!

Thank goodness!!!!! It's about time.
 

ellencee

Senior Member
abaga said:
You are really showing your ignorance now..moreso than ever!

Breaking equipment in his office?? What reason in the world would have you to even be touching their equipment anyway? Come up with a better comparison next time!

I am not going to respond to another one of your immature, ungrateful postings! I am done!
The marshmallows are giving her the feel good answers she's seeking. No need for anyone to give her correct information.
EC
 

rmet4nzkx

Senior Member
Why do you keep ignoring my question? Are you hoping something will go wrong with your transplant so you can sue them? Is that why you refuse to answer me and yet respond to everyone else?
 

abaga

Member
rmet4nzkx said:
Why do you keep ignoring my question? Are you hoping something will go wrong with your transplant so you can sue them? Is that why you refuse to answer me and yet respond to everyone else?
She doesn't want to give the answer herself that she has no basis for a lawsuit. EC just said it all.....great answer, EC.
 

rmet4nzkx

Senior Member
abaga said:
She doesn't want to give the answer herself that she has no basis for a lawsuit. EC just said it all.....great answer, EC.
My question is not related to whether or not she has a lawsuit, my question is re something that might affect the success of her transplant.
 
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