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Do I Have Enough for an Ex Parte Case?

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What is the name of your state? CA - Solano County, the other party is in Yolo County

I am wondering if I have enough evidence for an ex parte case. We have shared legal and physical custody and we live 60 miles apart, our child went to transitional kindergarten in mom's town last year. I had her on weekends, single-day holidays and half of Thanksgiving, Christmas, and Spring breaks. During the summer we agreed that I would have her 5 days a week. And she is dead set on her going to kindergarten in her town this coming school year. But here's the thing...

Trigger warning for violence and assault ahead.

Her and stepdad started going through divorce back in January and things suddenly started becoming very unstable. I got a call from her school one day that no one had picked her up and I had to drop everything and leave work to go get her. Mom almost immediately started bouncing between several different boyfriends in a very short amount of time following the break-up, and one guy she has been hanging around for much of the time since at least March is physically abusive. She first told me on the phone that he's slapped her and later texted me that he one time threw her on a bed, choked her out, and "did his thing" (her words).

Needless to say after that last revelation, I started becoming concerned about our kid being around this guy. Mom swears she isn't brought around him, but our kid recognized his picture and has met him. Fast forward a few weeks from that conversation and one of the times I drive our kid out there I'm requested to drop her off at a "friend's house" that mom is hanging out at, and on another occasion I'm told to pick up our kid there. Well after the second time there our kid reveals that that was the house of the violent abuser, and even said that that guy "slaps mommy", though it didn't sound like she had witnessed this but her mom at some point was forthcoming to her about it. Our kid is 5 now by the way.

After that I texted mom in the nicest way I could think of that I didn't want our kid at that house. Her response is along the lines of "I don't know what you're talking about, she's never witnessed anything and he's never done anything", essentially contradicting several things she's said before.

Well I'll try to wrap this up and fast forward to the summer... There are later conversations where mom admits physical abuse going on. She has established a pattern of lying and contradiction, and this isn't the first time but it's the most concerning. On top of that other little things happen... After the last day of school I find tobacco trash in our kid's backpack that was accidentally dropped in there (mom is notorious for doing bizarre, clumsy, absent-minded stuff like this). And when I read our kid's report card, she got good points in everything except turning in homework which I was never even told about throughout the entire school year. And going into summer, we agreed Mondays and Tuesdays would be her days to take our kid but she has flaked out most of the summer so far, having only taken her a few times, and at one point going 5 weeks without seeing our kid. Several of the times she was a no-call/no-show. The first time she flaked she was supposed to take our kid to a doctor because she had been complaining of stomach problems for over two weeks. The appointment was in her town and I texted her early where should I take her and when. She doesn't respond until the afternoon and says she's "sick" and I said don't worry about it and I took her to an urgent care doctor here the next day. By the way, later that day a Facebook post of her talking about partying and hanging around her abusive boyfriend the day before surface. So it's looking like she was just hungover or on drugs (which she has a history of).

So it's the beginning of August now and I'm really furious with all these events so far (and we had a lot more problems in the past, though we started off co-parenting a little better in the earlier years of our separation). I don't want our kid spending the majority of her time with such an irresponsible and unstable mom that makes so many awful decisions. I also did not like her going to school so far away (by the way they moved out there behind my back last year, we had no custody orders at the time) but now I feel like I have more compelling reason to do something about it. But I'm wondering if the continuous hanging around violent abusers is enough to warrant an ex parte case before school starts so I could register her in kindergarten here? Our only previous custody order was that she went to transitional kindergarten in the other town, but that's over now. And I have a neatly detailed and organized timeline and corresponding screenshots of everything I've described here and more.

I have no way of affording a lawyer otherwise I would've gotten one, I'm printing up all the forms to file my case tomorrow morning but want to make sure I'm not wasting my time. And also to be clear, I do not want to rip our kid away from her mother (even though she tried doing that to me last year), I want her to get her act together and make better life choices but I want to be in charge of medical and school matters, I am much more on things than she is and I'm in a safe and stable environment. Any and all info is appreciated.
 


adjusterjack

Senior Member
You want the judge to rule in your favor without getting the ex spouse into court to get her side of the story? That's not going to happen in a custody case.

You file your petition for change of custody. You serve them properly on your ex. The court schedules a hearing and there you go.

You can ask for an expedited hearing but there's no way to predict what the court's schedule will be.

If you think your daughter is in some sort of danger that requires immediate action, report the situation to Child Protective Services. They are likely to act a lot faster than court.
 
You want the judge to rule in your favor without getting the ex spouse into court to get her side of the story? That's not going to happen in a custody case.

You file your petition for change of custody. You serve them properly on your ex. The court schedules a hearing and there you go.

You can ask for an expedited hearing but there's no way to predict what the court's schedule will be.

If you think your daughter is in some sort of danger that requires immediate action, report the situation to Child Protective Services. They are likely to act a lot faster than court.
Do ex parte cases automatically exclude the other parent? I was unaware of that and that wasn't my intention.

I did call social services after it became apparent our kid had been around the abuser. They just said file a custody case.

Soo... Do I just file a normal case and wait months and change her school halfway through the school year (in the meantime subjecting kid to whatever bad elements and other irresponsible actions of her mother)? Or do I just register her in school here now and withhold kid when August 20th rolls around? I'm trying to brainstorm what might be a good course of action here.
 

Just Blue

Senior Member
Do ex parte cases automatically exclude the other parent? I was unaware of that and that wasn't my intention.

I did call social services after it became apparent our kid had been around the abuser. They just said file a custody case.

Soo... Do I just file a normal case and wait months and change her school halfway through the school year (in the meantime subjecting kid to whatever bad elements and other irresponsible actions of her mother)? Or do I just register her in school here now and withhold kid when August 20th rolls around? I'm trying to brainstorm what might be a good course of action here.

https://www.bing.com/search?q=definition+of+ex+parte&form=EDNTHT&mkt=en-us&httpsmsn=1&refig=d9789d84761f4abed8ec5ca679726d84&PC=HCTS&sp=1&qs=SC&pq=defination+of+ex+part&sc=8-21&cvid=d9789d84761f4abed8ec5ca679726d84&cc=US&setlang=en-US
 
After re-reading all the pages that define ex parte I feel back at the beginning of my dilemma... If our kid is being brought around violent people and I have overwhelming evidence of it, plus a trail of lying and instability, then maybe seeing a judge without the other party is called for? Or maybe I should try social services again in case the first person I talked to didn't understand the situation...
 

Just Blue

Senior Member
After re-reading all the pages that define ex parte I feel back at the beginning of my dilemma... If our kid is being brought around violent people and I have overwhelming evidence of it, plus a trail of lying and instability, then maybe seeing a judge without the other party is called for? Or maybe I should try social services again in case the first person I talked to didn't understand the situation...
Get a referral from the CA bar assoc (often they are reduced consultation fees) and show the attorney your evidence...see what they think.
 

not2cleverRed

Obvious Observer
After re-reading all the pages that define ex parte I feel back at the beginning of my dilemma... If our kid is being brought around violent people and I have overwhelming evidence of it, plus a trail of lying and instability, then maybe seeing a judge without the other party is called for? Or maybe I should try social services again in case the first person I talked to didn't understand the situation...
No. No it is not.

Why should the other party not have a chance to give their side of the story? Why should the other party be deprived of their legal right to defend themself from an accusation?

On the off chance that you were able to get an emergency ex parte order, it would only be a temporary order, pending a court date where the other party was allowed to respond.

Legal advice: get your child into counselling or therapy during your parenting time.
 
No. No it is not.

Why should the other party not have a chance to give their side of the story? Why should the other party be deprived of their legal right to defend themself from an accusation?

On the off chance that you were able to get an emergency ex parte order, it would only be a temporary order, pending a court date where the other party was allowed to respond.

Legal advice: get your child into counselling or therapy during your parenting time.
So why then does ex parte exist if not to he used when there's danger present? (And I have proof, not just baseless accusations). And im fine with there being later court dates where the other side can defend themself (or show that they've improved their life choices).
 

not2cleverRed

Obvious Observer
So why then does ex parte exist if not to he used when there's danger present? (And I have proof, not just baseless accusations). And im fine with there being later court dates where the other side can defend themself (or show that they've improved their life choices).
You don't have legal proof that he is a danger to your child. At no point have you indicated that there has been documentation that he has abused this child. Or any child, for that matter.

Heck, since mom hasn't gone to the police or hospital, you don't have proof that he's beating her up. (You know she'll deny it in court, and say the text messages are made up.)
 

adjusterjack

Senior Member
If our kid is being brought around violent people and I have overwhelming evidence of it, plus a trail of lying and instability
You won't like this and I hate to say it but I have to. I wish I had a buck for every time I read that someone has "overwhelming evidence" when they have no idea what "evidence" really is, or how to present it.

So, what exactly is your overwhelming evidence?

Hospital reports from when your ex was injured by abusers?
Police reports of the assaults?
Arrests of the abusers?
Witnesses who will go to court and testify that I saw this and I saw that?
Will your daughter get on the stand and testify that Mommy does this and Mommy does that and Mommy takes me to houses where bad men hit her?

Or will you just get up in court and recite a litany of the usual grievances that people in your position have against their ex spouses? All of which is just sayso and not "evidence"?

Please forgive my bluntness but, before you file your papers, you really need to understand what court is all about, before you do waste your time.

Understand that the bar is set pretty low for parenthood.
 
You don't have legal proof that he is a danger to your child. At no point have you indicated that there has been documentation that he has abused this child. Or any child, for that matter.

Heck, since mom hasn't gone to the police or hospital, you don't have proof that he's beating her up. (You know she'll deny it in court, and say the text messages are made up.)
I'm amazed that obviously violent individuals and rapists can just be dismissed as perfectly safe to have around children but okay.

She would have a hard time saying these screenshots are lies. There's a lot of them, all imported through different programs and all show consistent behaviors and activities, plus records from phone companies csn be accessed by the time later court dates roll around.

But I appreciate the feedback nonetheless. I'm in a race against time to figure out what to do here.
 

Just Blue

Senior Member
I'm amazed that obviously violent individuals and rapists can just be dismissed as perfectly safe to have around children but okay.

She would have a hard time saying these screenshots are lies. There's a lot of them, all imported through different programs and all show consistent behaviors and activities, plus records from phone companies csn be accessed by the time later court dates roll around.

But I appreciate the feedback nonetheless. I'm in a race against time to figure out what to do here.
Seriously...Take what you have to an attorney. Referrals from the Bar are pretty low cost (around $50.00 for a half a hour.). That way you will know where you stand.
 
You won't like this and I hate to say it but I have to. I wish I had a buck for every time I read that someone has "overwhelming evidence" when they have no idea what "evidence" really is, or how to present it.

So, what exactly is your overwhelming evidence?

Hospital reports from when your ex was injured by abusers?
Police reports of the assaults?
Arrests of the abusers?
Witnesses who will go to court and testify that I saw this and I saw that?
Will your daughter get on the stand and testify that Mommy does this and Mommy does that and Mommy takes me to houses where bad men hit her?

Or will you just get up in court and recite a litany of the usual grievances that people in your position have against their ex spouses? All of which is just sayso and not "evidence"?

Please forgive my bluntness but, before you file your papers, you really need to understand what court is all about, before you do waste your time.

Understand that the bar is set pretty low for parenthood.
I have records of her admitting assault numerous times. No police reports because victims often don't go to police when they should because of psychological effects of abusers, shame, and many other things.
 

not2cleverRed

Obvious Observer
I'm amazed that obviously violent individuals and rapists can just be dismissed as perfectly safe to have around children but okay.

She would have a hard time saying these screenshots are lies. There's a lot of them, all imported through different programs and all show consistent behaviors and activities, plus records from phone companies csn be accessed by the time later court dates roll around.

But I appreciate the feedback nonetheless. I'm in a race against time to figure out what to do here.
Look, get your child the counciling/therapy during your parenting time.

At the very least, the kid has a lot of stress in her life from the adults around her.

However, if there's something more sinister going on, the counsellor/therapist, as a mandated reporter, and credible 3rd party, can get you to the point where you have actual proof.
 

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