do i have rights?

[rodgersalto]

What is the name of your state? michigan
When i was young I got my girlfriend pregnant we had our baby and she even moved in with my parents things got really bad shortly after that and we seperated but it wansnt very pretty she would call me up all the time acting crazy and wanted to leave the baby with my mom she was mad that I had more freedom basically anyways to make a lo9ng story short my parents helped her alot!!!! paid her bill her groceries they have basicllly raised her especially when she disappears for weeks at atime my parents wuld do anything for my daughter and she knew and took advantage . about 2 years ago she finally found somebody and has settled her down she even got married
over the 8 years I really havent got my crap together I couldnt keep a steady job for more than 2 years line of work I guess anyways child support was always a problem my parents helped pay most of the time well now i am labeled a non custodial parent because i wasnt paying thats what they told me on the phone today ewhen I tried calling about my ex girlfriend leaving state to live somewhere else Do I have any rights?
we never went through court about visitation because she would let my mom and I have her anytime we wanted especially on weekends so she could party she is on probation can she leave the state with my little girl? what does non custodial mean I am on the birth certificate I cut her cord I pay child support do I have rights

 

[Echo1]

All I know is our states guidelines....

All she has to do is tell the court that she or her husband has a good job offer out of state, is going to school or that the move in general is better for the child...and the court won't stop her.

Having your name on the BC and your parents paying your CS isn't going to stop her. She has a new family and the court will encourage her and that new family to have a good life....no matter where that takes her.

It's too bad that you haven't gotten your life together....it could have made some difference if you had. Sorry.

Good luck to you....

 

[Shay-Pari'e]

All I know is our states guidelines....

All she has to do is tell the court that she or her husband has a good job offer out of state, is going to school or that the move in general is better for the child...and the court won't stop her.
Having your name on the BC and your parents paying your CS isn't going to stop her. She has a new family and the court will encourage her and that new family to have a good life....no matter where that takes her.

It's too bad that you haven't gotten your life together....it could have made some difference if you had. Sorry.

Good luck to you....

Bull Crap! The poster is an idiot, but you are more of one.

The poster claims there are no court orders, therefore there is nothing to tell the court untill the Mamma's boy establishes custody.

 

[Shay-Pari'e]

https://forum.freeadvice.com/showthread.php?t=327423

Why start a new thread?

 

[ceara19]

https://forum.freeadvice.com/showthread.php?t=327423

Why start a new thread?

Because he didn't like the answers he got in the first one.

This part just kills me:

she finally found somebody and has settled her down she even got married
over the 8 years I really havent got my crap together

In other words, instead of being happy that at least ONE of this child's parents finally pulled their head out of their ass and started being a PARENT, you want to try and make sure that your ex girlfriend CAN'T be happy and that your child suffers because you are no more mature NOW then you were 8 years ago! Grow the F*CK up!

I pay child support

BULLSH*T!! Your own words:

child support was always a problem my parents helped pay most of the time well now i am labeled a non custodial parent because i wasnt paying

You're "labeled" a non-custodial parent because there is no legal term for "dead-beat parasite"!

 

[rodgersalto]

Because he didn't like the answers he got in the first one.

This part just kills me:

In other words, instead of being happy that at least ONE of this child's parents finally pulled their head out of their ass and started being a PARENT, you want to try and make sure that your ex girlfriend CAN'T be happy and that your child suffers because you are no more mature NOW then you were 8 years ago! Grow the F*CK up!

BULLSH*T!! Your own words:

You're "labeled" a non-custodial parent because there is no legal term for "dead-beat parasite"!

You guys dont understand I am happy for her!!! its not that its just the fact that she is leaving the state with my daughter!!!! she moved once to lansing and we had a two hour drive to get her if we wanted to see her the mother never even once met us half way and yes I seem a deadbeat parent but its not because of the lack of love its only the line of work I was in I was being honest about not getting my sht together but mainly it was stupidity and being naive about the court stuff she handled everything we really never needed a mediator because she was more than wiling to let us have her for as long as we wanted the question still remains do I have any rights at all as a non custodial parent what steps can I take?????? My parents are all ready to make the trip to wisconsin to see her instead of 2 hrs it will have to be 8 i guess

 

[cmykds]

Non custodial parent simply means that the child does not live with you. It doesn't mean you have no rights. You need to research Michigan's move away laws, and based on that you would need to file a motion in court to object to the move and if nothing else be granted court ordered visitation. If the courts were to allow her to move out of state the can order her to do half if not all of the transporation. I live in Wisconsin, and am not formilular with Michigan laws on this but bottom line is that you do have rights to your child. Use google and see what you can find.

 

[Halls]

Shay Pari is right althought I don't think it was nice to call Echo an idiot. Could you have just corrected her/him without calling them names? Anyhow, it is true though. When one parent hasn't even established parternity after years than I don't think the mom needs to do any notifying to the courts seeing there is no court order on the case as it is.

 

[cmykds]

Shay Pari is right althought I don't think it was nice to call Echo an idiot. Could you have just corrected her/him without calling them names? Anyhow, it is true though. When one parent hasn't even established parternity after years than I don't think the mom needs to do any notifying to the courts seeing there is no court order on the case as it is.

But wouldn't paternity have been established if he's paying child support? He said he was present at the birth and signed the birth certificate. Sounded to me that there was just no court ordered visitation. I would still think he'd have a say in the matter he does have rights to the child. I know she wouldn't have to petition the courts to be able to move but couldn't he still file to object to it and have the matter heard and decided on in court?

 

[weenor]

Based on OP's rambling posts we do not even know if paternity has been legally established and we don't know if child support was court ordered or collected through the state. In order to object to mom's move he is going to have to make sure paternity is legally established first , then file to have the court hear the objection and/or to set a visitation schedule. He really just needs a lawyer.

 

[rodgersalto]

non cust

thank you for everyones input paternity was established that was never a problem we have always had a verbal agreement as far as custody goes and child support was her doing through friend of the court I believe I really just went along with everything cuz she was my responsibility and dealing with the mom was a nightmare if I complained about anything she would just not answer her phone for weeks so keeping her calm was the way we always did things she stayed with us most of the time up until she got married now there is a new baby so she has a built in sitter so she has no use for us not to mention the distance so basically a motion for more custody is what I have to do? will that keep her here because I know once she is gone thats the last we will here of her what about child support in wisconsin she will have to fille again or something wont she ? I pay 155 a week and her huband has big bucks!!!

 

[Shay-Pari'e]

thank you for everyones input paternity was established that was never a problem we have always had a verbal agreement as far as custody goes and child support was her doing through friend of the court I believe I really just went along with everything cuz she was my responsibility and dealing with the mom was a nightmare if I complained about anything she would just not answer her phone for weeks so keeping her calm was the way we always did things she stayed with us most of the time up until she got married now there is a new baby so she has a built in sitter so she has no use for us not to mention the distance so basically a motion for more custody is what I have to do? will that keep her here because I know once she is gone thats the last we will here of her what about child support in wisconsin she will have to fille again or something wont she ? I pay 155 a week and her huband has big bucks!!!

Who cares if her hubby has big bucks? This is your child, not his.

 

[ConcerndStepmom]

Based on OP's rambling posts we do not even know if paternity has been legally established and we don't know if child support was court ordered or collected through the state. In order to object to mom's move he is going to have to make sure paternity is legally established first , then file to have the court hear the objection and/or to set a visitation schedule. He really just needs a lawyer.

OK you are the father .. as you have stated.. we gather that. Is your agreement VERBAL or through the court??? verbal is NO GOOD. PETITION the COURT !!!!!

WITHOUT a COURT ORDER you have no grounds, nothing but he said she said..

 

[rodgersalto]

OK you are the father .. as you have stated.. we gather that. Is your agreement VERBAL or through the court??? verbal is NO GOOD. PETITION the COURT !!!!!

WITHOUT a COURT ORDER you have no grounds, nothing but he said she said..

i pay child support isnt that through the courts???? I am recognized as the father that way

 

[angiesmom]

i pay child support isnt that through the courts???? I am recognized as the father that way

Paying child support is not the same as having a VISTATION ORDER. You need to get that established before you can do anything.