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samsam88

Junior Member
What is the name of your state? TX
I have a thread in another forum about internet harassment in a blogspace. The person I'm about to talk about is the same person that's doing the harassment to me on the net.

My ex bf has some custody rights to my little boy. He sees him one weekend a month and can see him a couple weeks out of the summer if he can fit him into his schedule at that time. For one my ex doesn't really want custody. He just has it because he knows it gets under my skin. He doesn't care for our son. But he hasn't done anything mean so I can't prove he doesn't care. However my son is 9 and not once has he gotten a birthday present or even a Christmas present from his father. He doesn't ask to see him at Christmas or on his birthday. Actually he doesn't even call on those days!! When I ask him why he says he doesn't have the money or he forgot. Or christmas he says he is always at his wifes familys house and their cells don't work out there...and he's not going to call long distance on their phone. It's a crock. Anyway my issue isn't with him it's his wife.

She has nothing to do with him. I've sat and watched her love on her own son and play with him and then when my son tries to play with her she completely ignores him. When he's been at their house she's said in front of him to my husband or her son that I'm a "whore" and that I'm "worthless". She told my son that he was a bas-ta-rd and explained what a bas-ta-rd was to him. He used to have a different name until he was one year. Because I honestly thought he was someone elses. Yeah a big mistake on my part. She told him all about it. They have a copy of the old birth certificate that the child support bureau sent them when they ordred a CS hearing. She even got it out and showed it to him. He came home in tears. It's created a huge identity crisis for him. Their son is a couple years younger than he is. He brags to my son about all the clothes and toys they buy him and says that he doesn't get anything because they like him better. He's also mean to my son. He hits him. He's even beaten him up. And they didn't even punnish him for it. Actually they told my son he was grounded from the X box at their house for starting a fight. Their son has taken my sons things and hidden them. He's also thrown them away for just meanness I guess.

I've called child protective services but they ivestigated and said their home was suitable and felt they were a loving environment. Of course. They are great at pretending to outsiders. Their son is a straight A student at school and has never been in trouble at school but he's beaten up I don't know how many kids on their block during after school hours or during the summer. He's in sports. Baseball, football, and he's on summer league baseball teams that travel to other states and compete. Thats why my ex says he cant' work my son into his schedule during the summer. They don't want him to go with them to these tournaments. They even have a personal trainer for their son for weightlifting because they want him to have a strong arm so he can be the best in those two sports. Apparently he's a pitcher. And he is the best on his team. He's pretty buff for an 8 year old and extremely strong. That's why I'm scared for my son and he has the upper hand.

I don't know what to do here. Everytime my son comes home he's in tears. But he loves going there because they have a big nice house, a pool, all kinds of toys, a fourwheeler and they live on a large amount of land so they let him ride it. And we just live in an apartment. And I've tried to get CS increased because I know they have way more money than they are telling me. But his wife says she's the one that makes all that money...and their home and land was willed to them by her grandfather when he passed away. Her father is a home builder and he does all kinds of work to their home and upgrades it and it's an awesome home and they've not paid a dime for it.

Also my ex is a little racist. And my son picked up te N word at their house. Apparently they were driving down the road and saw some black people and started saying how worthless they are etc. My son told me all about it because I asked him where he heard the N word and why he said to me they were lazy and didn't work. When I asked my ex about it he just laughed and said "well atleast he's learning something of some worth". Apparently their son even is racist now. Racist parents racist kids I guess.

They also went to Europe this past spring for two weeks. They took their son with them. My son wanted to go so bad because it was spring break. But they said they only had money for the three of them. When I asked where they got the money to go to europe with his wife said it was the money they got back on their taxes and it was a family thing with her family. Apparently her parents went too. And said it was a private affair. When they got back and my son was at their house their son told him all about it. He even saw the pictures they had hung on the wall and had sitting on their desk. He started crying there and saying to them they never take him anywhere and his step mom told him that if he would act a little more grown up and not be so immature they might let him go places with them. But he had to learn how to behave like an adult first. Of course he ran off and said he cried.

What can I do. Is there any way I can keep my son from them? Isn't talking bad about me in front of my son some form of child abuse?
 
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First of all I am in no way trying to mean to you.

But..that child is not just yours, it's your and HIS child.

His wife has no obligation to treat him as her own.

Her money/property has nothing to do with what the childs father has.



You would be doing the best for your child if you got him some counseling. HE needs to learn to deal with the fact that

His father never married you, and he has married and has another family
His father seems to devote much of his time and energy into his other son
His father's wife doesn't really want him there.

None of these things creates abuse. Yes he's being a lousy father to your son. But there are all types of parents out there, good and not so good.

You picked a not so good one to procreate with. Be the best mom you can be, and when a couselor decides that the environment the father puts his son in is harming him, then you may petition the court. But even your son at this piont seems to want to put up with thier behavior to enjoy the good life.

If at such time as the other child assaults your child, then file assault charges.
 

samsam88

Junior Member
First of all I am in no way trying to mean to you.

But..that child is not just yours, it's your and HIS child.

His wife has no obligation to treat him as her own.

Her money/property has nothing to do with what the childs father has.



You would be doing the best for your child if you got him some counseling. HE needs to learn to deal with the fact that

His father never married you, and he has married and has another family
His father seems to devote much of his time and energy into his other son
His father's wife doesn't really want him there.

None of these things creates abuse. Yes he's being a lousy father to your son. But there are all types of parents out there, good and not so good.

You picked a not so good one to procreate with. Be the best mom you can be, and when a couselor decides that the environment the father puts his son in is harming him, then you may petition the court. But even your son at this piont seems to want to put up with thier behavior to enjoy the good life.

If at such time as the other child assaults your child, then file assault charges.
His son has assaulted my son several times. He's came home with a black eye once. Bruises on his arms where he's twisted them. Etc. Thrown rocks at him. My ex is big on hunting and he takes his son hunting deer with him every season. His son not only has a rifle but also has a bb gun. And he's shot my son with bb's several times. But it's never penetrated the skin. How doyou file assault charges against a 7 year old? I mean that's such a grown up term. And what exactly would someone do to a 7 year old that comits assault? They aren't going to arrest him or put him in jail.
 
Um...yes they do!!!!!!

You file charges just like you would against any one else. It will be held by a juvinile court, and it will give you the proof you need to justify a change in visitation.

Now there's nothing you can do about past assaults, unless of course you have medical documentaion. But even then, it's water under the bridge because you've sent him back there.

ALso at 9 yo, teach your child to stand up for himself, tell school officials, or call 911 himself.

You are bound by court orders and the burden of proof. You can sue for Dr bills, lost wages for seeking emergency treatment for your son. You can also prove if the injuries are serious enough that the father, or adult in charge of him at the time is guilty of neglect if they fail to seek medical treatment.

Now don't use this advise to start a war with your ex. Use it to protect your child, and wake dad up to what he is doing to his first son.

Go by the book, and don't make moutains out of mole hills. You may not have all the facts, and as boys will be boys, he may be guilty of some sibling rivalry himself.
 

samsam88

Junior Member
He knows what he's doing to my son. He's broken them up several times from fighting. He even told my son to hit him back but he doesn't because he's scared of his brother. But what can I do about his wife telling my son bad things about me to upset him? Or telling him he's a bas-ta-rd? That's horrible. He told my brother in law who happens to be my sons fathers cousin that he's trying to make me so upset over this that I'll stop even wanting child support from him. I have a fiancee and I'm getting married soon. He said he would adopt my son if my ex would be ok with it. I'm sure he would be fine with it. And that's what he's doing. He's trying to leave me no choice. He doesnt' want to pay me in CS each month because his wife can't go shopping as much as she likes.
 

Ohiogal

Queen Bee
He knows what he's doing to my son. He's broken them up several times from fighting. He even told my son to hit him back but he doesn't because he's scared of his brother.
Some dads feel that their sons need to be toughened up. Doesn't make it right but it also doesn't mean it is illegal. It is a difference in parenting style.

But what can I do about his wife telling my son bad things about me to upset him?
You can be honest with your son and tell him that sometimes people say mean things and he should ignore it.
Or telling him he's a bas-ta-rd? That's horrible.
Technically he is a *******. You may think that is horrible to tell him but it is the truth.

He told my brother in law who happens to be my sons fathers cousin that he's trying to make me so upset over this that I'll stop even wanting child support from him. I have a fiancee and I'm getting married soon. He said he would adopt my son if my ex would be ok with it. I'm sure he would be fine with it. And that's what he's doing. He's trying to leave me no choice.
Well then that gives you options down the road.

He doesnt' want to pay me in CS each month because his wife can't go shopping as much as she likes.
Now you are just being petty.
 

fairisfair

Senior Member
I am thinking that enrolling your son in a martial arts class would be hugely beneficial.

He will learn to be more self assured, to be more self confident. And the ability to kick the crap out of somebody might not hurt either ;):D
 
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psfunkytek

Guest
Sorry to hear...

First, may I say that is this is all going on unprovoked, I am sorry that your son is going through this. I see you've gotten a lot of feedback, but I know (because I've been there), you're looking for advice and probably desperately wondering what to do to protect your child.

I have a clause in my agreement that say's that no parent can disparage or make negative remarks about the other, and that they cannot ALLOW the child to be in the presence of another who makes such remarks. As my agreement was recently being modified, I asked my attorney how on earth this could possibly be enforced since you cannot go into court and say what your child said because it's hearsay. My attorney affectively shrugged his shoulders and said basically if there wasn't someone who heard, then the only alternative is to have your child talk directly to the judge or a custody evaluator (I personally don't recommend the latter, it's very costly).

Obviously, most parents don't want their kids to have to go through that, an that's where counseling comes in. As someone mentioned, you MUST get your child in counseling. If a therapists, teacher or doctor makes a report to child services, it is taken more seriously than when a "civilian" does. By having him in regular counseling, your child has an advocate that can make a CPS report if needed and ALSO can attest to any patterns of innapropriate activity in your sons life.

When your son was was "beat up" did you take him to a doctor? If not, you definately SHOUD have and in the future if he is ever injured again, you need to seek medical attention. That doctor/hospital/clinic will be a very reliable record of these issues, MUCH better than yourself (no offense) and again can contact CPS if needed (for the record, I am NO fan of CPS, they are very ineffective in most cases, IMO), however if you don't want to start appearing to everyone to be an wacko, then you don't want to be out there on your own making claims because in the world of custody/visitation it is VERY easy to become the "irrational, overracting, overprotective" mother. It's a very sad reality of this system.

Focus on getting your son to the proper advocates and being a loving mother who can help him deal with some of the harsh realities of the world. It's one of the most difficult things that you MUST learn to do when you are sharing custody.
 

sameoldsameold

Junior Member
Technically he is a *******. You may think that is horrible to tell him but it is the truth.

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I thought that signing the afidavit of paternity in effect "legitimized" children. My understanding is that "*******ization" is when there is no aknowledgement of paternity.:confused:
 

jbowman

Senior Member
Merriam-Webster's Dictionary of Law -
Main Entry: bas·tard
Pronunciation: 'bas-t&rd
Function: noun
: an illegitimate child
NOTE: The word ******* is no longer used in legal contexts.


Nice to know it is no longer used in legal contexts. It is truly a horrible word. But it did/does truly mean a child born to unwed parents.
 

CourtClerk

Senior Member
I happen to think fairisfair is completely right on this one. Twice a week in a martial arts class. Teach your boy to toughen up and the next time that brat puts his hands on him, LAY HIM OUT.
 
Merriam-Webster's Dictionary of Law -
Main Entry: bas·tard
Pronunciation: 'bas-t&rd
Function: noun
: an illegitimate child
NOTE: The word ******* is no longer used in legal contexts.


Nice to know it is no longer used in legal contexts. It is truly a horrible word. But it did/does truly mean a child born to unwed parents.
Actually it still is . As an example the N. Carolina statutes on illegitimate children is still titled Bas-tardy . I'm sure there are others that haven't been excised yet .
 

Ohiogal

Queen Bee
Technically he is a *******. You may think that is horrible to tell him but it is the truth.

QUOTE]


I thought that signing the afidavit of paternity in effect "legitimized" children. My understanding is that "*******ization" is when there is no aknowledgement of paternity.:confused:
Nope it did not legitimize your children. All it did was have the father swear that he is the father without a paternity test. If the children were born out of wedlock then they are considered bas-tards.
 

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