External camera violation of peace bond?

[Jason.j]

I have a doorbell camera app on my phone, just wondering if viewing it is a violation of my "indirect contact"?

Thank you

 

[quincy]

I have a doorbell camera app on my phone, just wondering if viewing it is a violation of my "indirect contact"?

Thank you

What is the name of your state?

Whose doorbell? Your own doorbell or the doorbell of the person you are restrained from contacting?

 

[Jason.j]

What is the name of your state?

Whose doorbell? Your own doorbell or the doorbell of the person you are restrained from contacting?

Thanks for the reply

California

I bought the doorbell, it's for our matrimonial home, which is in my name only.

 

[quincy]

Thanks for the reply

California

I bought the doorbell, it's for our matrimonial home, which is in my name only.

So ... is your wife currently living in the matrimonial house and are you not supposed to have any contact with your wife?

If the answer to those questions are “yes,” you should forget that you have the doorbell app. Don’t try to track your wife’s comings and goings. Don’t stalk her. Don’t play games with the no contact order by trying to get around its intent. Leave your wife alone.

Edit to add: The title of your thread mentions “peace bond,” which is a Canadian order. Are you really in California?

 

[LdiJ]

I have a doorbell camera app on my phone, just wondering if viewing it is a violation of my "indirect contact"?

Thank you

I find it interesting that you asked the question so vaguely, without providing any context. Then, when we asked questions in order to determine context, you were vague again. Also, the "I bought the doorbell" does not somehow confer validity on your actions. It just makes it look like you wish to bother the person you have been told to leave alone and are looking for loopholes.

If you were my son (I assume male from your name) I would go one step further than Quincy and insist that you delete the doorbell app from your phone so that you won't be tempted to look at it at all. Other than that, I echo Quincy's advise. Please don't cause yourself more trouble because your ego is getting in your way.

 

[Jason.j]

So ... is your wife currently living in the matrimonial house and are you not supposed to have any contact with your wife?

If the answer to those questions are “yes,” you should forget that you have the doorbell app. Don’t try to track your wife’s comings and goings. Don’t stalk her. Don’t play games with the no contact order by trying to get around its intent. Leave your wife alone.

Edit to add: The title of your thread mentions “peace bond,” which is a Canadian order. Are you really in California?

The issue with the camera is recent "saved picture" notifications show her "look" like she's talking to the camera as if I was watching, but I was actually downloading wedding photos/videos off my server.

I don't like the term restraining order, and given it is based off of false accusations, I thought peace bond sounded nicer.

Also, the app is installed on multiple devices, including other members of my family.

 

[Just Blue]

The issue with the camera is recent "saved picture" notifications show her "look" like she's talking to the camera as if I was watching, but I was actually downloading wedding photos/videos off my server.

I don't like the term restraining order, and given it is based off of false accusations, I thought peace bond sounded nicer.

Also, the app is installed on multiple devices, including other members of my family.

Based on just what you have posted here, your behavior is concerning. A Restraining Order may not sound "nice"... but then again, neither does your creepy actions.

Delete the app and leave the poor woman alone before you end up in jail...or prison.

 

[Jason.j]

What's concerning is the stigma around restraining orders and the "restrainee", as if a spouse has never made false accusations in order to receive some form of monetary compensation.

Here's some reading material for you, if you so choose....

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7838333

Thank you all for your preconceived notions, have a lovely day

 

[stealth2]

You’re playing with fire. Delete the app.

 

[Zigner]

What's concerning is the stigma around restraining orders and the "restrainee", as if a spouse has never made false accusations in order to receive some form of monetary compensation.

Here's some reading material for you, if you so choose....

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7838333

Thank you all for your preconceived notions, have a lovely day

Whether or not anyone has "preconceived notions" is absolutely immaterial to the fact that you have an order against you, and your actions would seem to violate that order. Of course, none of us have read that order, but the fact that you have a concern leads me to believe that you know what you are doing is probably, at best, in a grey area. Delete the app. Whether or not others have the app is not something you can control, but you can ask them not to mention what they may see on that app.

 

[quincy]

The issue with the camera is recent "saved picture" notifications show her "look" like she's talking to the camera as if I was watching, but I was actually downloading wedding photos/videos off my server.

I don't like the term restraining order, and given it is based off of false accusations, I thought peace bond sounded nicer.

Also, the app is installed on multiple devices, including other members of my family.

What's concerning is the stigma around restraining orders and the "restrainee", as if a spouse has never made false accusations in order to receive some form of monetary compensation.

Here's some reading material for you, if you so choose....

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7838333

Thank you all for your preconceived notions, have a lovely day

It sounds like your wife understands what you are doing, or attempting to do, with the doorbell app - and she apparently has good reason to be concerned.

Yes, false accusations of any sort can be damaging but you address these false accusations in court.

When you go to the next hearing on the restraining order, it is possible that your use of the doorbell app will become a factor that helps your wife extend the order rather than have it lifted.

If you don’t have an attorney representing you already, you should have one.

 

[Jason.j]

Whether or not anyone has "preconceived notions" is absolutely immaterial to the fact that you have an order against you, and your actions would seem to violate that order. Of course, none of us have read that order, but the fact that you have a concern leads me to believe that you know what you are doing is probably, at best, in a grey area. Delete the app. Whether or not others have the app is not something you can control, but you can ask them not to mention what they may see on that app.

My concern is as I stated above, the picture notification of my spouse appearing to "talk" to the doorbell as if I could hear it. I didn't hear anything as I was most assuredly not watching it. But even when I uninstall the app, the modem/router lights would still flicker when I am streaming data from my server, making it appear as if i didn't. I highly doubt my spouse would think otherwise, and I don't think there's any log I can show to prove when I uninstalled it either. Also, considering I used our mutually agreed upon 3rd party to ask politely for my "computer stuff" back (which was ignored), the only way would be spending $5k (I don't have) to retain a family lawyer to ask for it (again), or going there with a police escort which would further tarnish my reputation with neighbors/doorman and others in the neighborhood who would see me and immediately assume the worst of a male, just as you all have.

Believe it or not, I am trying to not cause any harm to my spouse, or I could've easily pressed charges of my own, could've taken my car, and sent a foreclosure notice right before the holidays. I am trying to wait patiently in the hopes my spouse snaps out of this. I even went as far as speaking to multiple "psychics" whom all said we will get back together. So, all I can do is weather the storm for now, and look for support from those that don't automatically assume the worst in people.

 

[quincy]

My concern is as I stated above, the picture notification of my spouse appearing to "talk" to the doorbell as if I could hear it. I didn't hear anything as I was most assuredly not watching it. But even when I uninstall the app, the modem/router lights would still flicker when I am streaming data from my server, making it appear as if i didn't. I highly doubt my spouse would think otherwise, and I don't think there's any log I can show to prove when I uninstalled it either. Also, considering I used our mutually agreed upon 3rd party to ask politely for my "computer stuff" back (which was ignored), the only way would be spending $5k (I don't have) to retain a family lawyer to ask for it (again), or going there with a police escort which would further tarnish my reputation with neighbors/doorman and others in the neighborhood who would see me and immediately assume the worst of a male, just as you all have.

Believe it or not, I am trying to not cause any harm to my spouse, or I could've easily pressed charges of my own, could've taken my car, and sent a foreclosure notice right before the holidays. I am trying to wait patiently in the hopes my spouse snaps out of this. I even went as far as speaking to multiple "psychics" whom all said we will get back together. So, all I can do is weather the storm for now, and look for support from those that don't automatically assume the worst in people.

Talking to “psychics?” Oh dear.

 

[Zigner]

My concern is as I stated above, the picture notification of my spouse appearing to "talk" to the doorbell as if I could hear it. I didn't hear anything as I was most assuredly not watching it. But even when I uninstall the app, the modem/router lights would still flicker when I am streaming data from my server, making it appear as if i didn't. I highly doubt my spouse would think otherwise, and I don't think there's any log I can show to prove when I uninstalled it either. Also, considering I used our mutually agreed upon 3rd party to ask politely for my "computer stuff" back (which was ignored), the only way would be spending $5k (I don't have) to retain a family lawyer to ask for it (again), or going there with a police escort which would further tarnish my reputation with neighbors/doorman and others in the neighborhood who would see me and immediately assume the worst of a male, just as you all have.

Believe it or not, I am trying to not cause any harm to my spouse, or I could've easily pressed charges of my own, could've taken my car, and sent a foreclosure notice right before the holidays. I am trying to wait patiently in the hopes my spouse snaps out of this. I even went as far as speaking to multiple "psychics" whom all said we will get back together. So, all I can do is weather the storm for now, and look for support from those that don't automatically assume the worst in people.

Because there will be blinky lights in the house, you refuse to uninstall the app?

Bless your heart.

 

[Jason.j]

Talking to “psychics?” Oh dear.

They are life coaches that have been proven right more often than not in my experience, hence why I jokingly called them psychics. But given that all my family and even my lawyer was telling me to go on the offensive when I wanted to take the high road, I looked to other people that were indifferent, had potential insight and had a calmer demeanour. If everyone was jumping off a bridge, would you follow them? There's no harm, aside from a minimal financial impact for me, to consulting with others, and there's no harm again to not going on the offensive when the truth is on my side. If you aren't assuming the worst of me, are you suggesting I go on the offensive too? Because it's never going to happen, at least not until I at least try patience and compassion first.

Because there will be blinky lights in the house, you refuse to uninstall the app?

Bless your heart.

Lol, I've already uninstalled the app, but my point was, the "blinky lights" from my streaming would still be there to "convince" my spouse I hadn't uninstalled it, so it's all for nothing in the end. Again, the situation comes down to my word against my spouse's. So my options are wait 4-months (total) before I can potentially get this dropped, pay money I don't have for a family lawyer which will no doubt take months, tarnish my reputation further with the police escort, or stream my data now to help from being so depressed at this ridiculous situation.