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rmet4nzkx

Senior Member
delvalle5 said:
I'm not entirely sure how all this relates to my legal question, but I'll bite. Here is something you may be interested in. (Notice all the "may"s and "could"s if you visit the website) Out of the myriad of symptoms listed, my son has one. Wow, maybe I should just jump right up and assume he has this :rolleyes: Here goes. Notice that, as required by law, the results are still released and read by a physician. Confidential, like every other test any patient recieves, but still interpreted by a physician, like every other test any patient receives. Thank you for thinking of my children though. It is good information.
All you need is the family history of asthma, to qualify for testing, or lung, disorders, you also listed other problems your children have that might qualify. I communicate with the leaders in the field of research and have access to unpublished data, beyond the scope of this forum.

How is this related to your legal question? You made claims that you were better educated to medically treat your child's health problems than his father and therefore should control the entire situation. You claimed to be in the health profession and yet here is something of which you were misinformed that affected your competence to care for your child and in your profession. The point is all of that is irrelevent insofar as your legal question, because both you and your child's father are both considered competent within the law to provide care for your child, but at the same time even with you are calling me names, I was looking after the best interest of your child. I am objective which can make me a pain in the a$$, but some of the people who have been very angry with me, later thanked me.

Even if you and your children are found to be MM's, you will know this information and I will guarentee you that you will use this information from this day forward.

One thing you and your family should avoid is environmental toxins and second hand smoke, if memory serves me correct WA state has paper mills which can be quite affecting.

Legally your ex has done nothing wrong and you need to be more cooporative in sharing the responsibility for health and allowing your ex his parental rights.
 


delvalle5

Member
Not even the physicians can claim to know everything all the time. I "claim" to be in the medical profession because I am in the medical profession. I have never claimed to be a doctor. I claimed to be more informed than my ex. I know some things about the alpha 1 disorder, but not everything, nor do I claim to.

Legally- like I said, I spoke to an attorney after posting to this forum, and he is in contempt of the order. It is stated in the order that I have sole legal and pri**** physical custody, that I provide the medical insurance and am the sole decision maker regarding medical, educational and legal decisions. Also, he filled my son's prescription through another child's insurance and name. That is insurance fraud. What I do with the information is up to me.

Argumentatively- as you know, the insurances accumulate the information, number of scripts, visits, all of it and it can affect the patient in renewing or eligibility in the future. Is my ex doing a disservice to the other child? If my son were to have an adverse reaction to the medication, would he then be treated properly during the cover up that would surely ensue? I know that my scenarios are worst case and what if's... but what kind of mother would I be if I didn't consider the possiblities?

Personally- I am not angry with anyone who has posted, I don't even know you. This back and forth banter is healthy and leads one to analyze his/her own thought patterns. Nothing wrong with that. Plus.. you never know what you may learn in the process. I hate to say this though... you don't seem very..objective.. in some of the things you say. Some of it is quite inflammatory in its wording--insightful--yet argumentative.
 

rmet4nzkx

Senior Member
delvalle5 said:
Not even the physicians can claim to know everything all the time. I "claim" to be in the medical profession because I am in the medical profession. I have never claimed to be a doctor. I claimed to be more informed than my ex. I know some things about the alpha 1 disorder, but not everything, nor do I claim to.

Legally- like I said, I spoke to an attorney after posting to this forum, and he is in contempt of the order. It is stated in the order that I have sole legal and pri**** physical custody, that I provide the medical insurance and am the sole decision maker regarding medical, educational and legal decisions. Also, he filled my son's prescription through another child's insurance and name. That is insurance fraud. What I do with the information is up to me.

Argumentatively- as you know, the insurances accumulate the information, number of scripts, visits, all of it and it can affect the patient in renewing or eligibility in the future. Is my ex doing a disservice to the other child? If my son were to have an adverse reaction to the medication, would he then be treated properly during the cover up that would surely ensue? I know that my scenarios are worst case and what if's... but what kind of mother would I be if I didn't consider the possiblities?

Personally- I am not angry with anyone who has posted, I don't even know you. This back and forth banter is healthy and leads one to analyze his/her own thought patterns. Nothing wrong with that. Plus.. you never know what you may learn in the process. I hate to say this though... you don't seem very..objective.. in some of the things you say. Some of it is quite inflammatory in its wording--insightful--yet argumentative.
Being objective can seem inflamatory and argumentative when it is not what you want to hear. You got the same advice from everyone re sending your son to visit his father. What you tell an attorney will influence the advice you get, it is subjective, we are looking at this more objectively and you did get advice from a CA attorney.

What you are suggesting is imflamatory and while you might cause a lot of trouble it is likely to bite you in the but. Let it be. Your son was appropriately treated and you know that, you also know that no matter your custody situation, his father is allowed to obtain medical care for his child and if you are the one required to provide health insurance, then you need to provide more inclusive insurance for when the child is out of state or network so there are not huge ER bills when they are not needed. Remember you moved and with that you have greater responsibility to encourage the NCP's relationship with his father, if not, the judge can change your custody status in a heartbeat.

Update us with your A1AD findings and feel free to send a PM if you have more questions.
 
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shell007

Guest
Hey...I have a couple of questions for the OP!!!!!

How is your son???

Has his condition worsened because of Dad's cautious behavior??

Is your son getting better?
 

delvalle5

Member
My son was improving the very next day-- too soon to be an effect of the antibiotics. He didn't need antibiotics, so the treatment was not appropriate. I pay for the medical and it is changing on the first of the year as I am starting a new job with Kaiser. He will have more comprehensive out of state coverage. Not that this has anything to do with the current issue, but if his father paid his court ordered payments, I could have afforded the next step up on the medical insurance. As for custody, no judge is going to overturn it when they see the various police reports and documented history that coincides with this case. I have never gotten a lawyer and have prevailed every time using just the documented facts- no stupid accusations in court and everything I said was backed up with either police reports or other legal professional testimony. I asked for full custody, he asked for full custody and he got visitation with mandatory counseling.
 

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