Firearms?

[mommyof4]

CJane is correct I am a SHE.

I am also an expert marksman.

I also have a pretty solid background on the horrors of physical abuse.

I believe in EVERYone's right to happiness and a safe living environment.

I sleep with a loaded revolver above my head, one on the nightstand on my husband's side.

We live in the badlands, things have been known to happen.

I'm totally serious when i told this mother 'it could come in handy' and i was NOT being mean.

Someone, ANYONE threatens me i have a right to defend myself.

So everyone who wants to jump on their bandwagon, please do so. whatever.

do you think the model that was recently killed and dismembered would have been so had she been armed? what about the mom who was abducted when she was walking a lonely road?

Our country was founded and established by men, women and children who carried weapons out of necessity. I understand that it isn't politically correct anymore, and i am pretty confident that w/in a year or two none of us will own weapons of any sort.

legally, that is.

i have nothing more to add to the thread, save to respond to the OP's response, if there is one.

Don't remember chastising you for promoting self defense. I DID say you were out of line to suggest her expert marksmanship skills would come in handy against the father of her child WHO IS NOT THREATENING OR HARMING OP. Remember? EX has moved on to beating his new wife.

You were out of line and you should NOT have said that....even in a joking matter.

 

[JacobJoel]

ohhhh, and yeah....

I shot one of my husband's shotgun's a couple of time.

the kick on it was serious, but the damage to my fingers was the real bummer.

I was to proud to saying anything, but the weapon was way to big for me and the impact on my fingers was so bad they were swollen and black and blue for weeks.

hubby couldn't believe it.

me either!

 

[ProSeDadinMD]

... I would also suspect that the federal law intends for them not to have a firearm in their possession. ....

It's the letter of the law that will get you locked up, not the intention. Or do you have some kind of "anecdotal information" to the contrary?

Just sayin'...

 

[JacobJoel]

Noted

Your displeasure is note ms. M4, and i could care less.

if the guy is beating his new wife w/a history of same with OP, it never hurts for him to be aware of her expertise.

but hey, i bet you feel really good for setting me straight, huh.

me too. but i just had a shower and soothing body rub.

let's have a cigarette together, ok?

cheers.

 

[mommyof4]

Your displeasure is note ms. Pro, and i could care less.

if the guy is beating his new wife w/a history of same with OP, it never hurts for him to be aware of her expertise.

but hey, i bet you feel really good for setting me straight, huh.

me too. but i just had a shower and soothing body rub.

let's have a cigarette together, ok?

cheers.

I'm not sure exactly what crawled up your behind, but make sure you know who your responding to when you get snippy. Pro didn't say a word to you. I did.

You were in the wrong to say that. You have no idea how stable or not the OP is. For all you know, you just planted a GREAT idea in her head.

 

[ezmarelda]

If he is a felon this is a no brainer. research the laws for gun handling and gun ownership for your state.

i taught hunter safety, you have to handle the weapon in the class. did he do so?

he is possibly in violation.

with the climate of today's law on guns and gun ownership this is bizarre.

who are these guns registered to? unregistered, better for you, worse for him.

evidently he has money, right? sad.

if he is an abuser it is very likely that he would, in fact, make your daughter kill something, especially if he is totally completely aware of her desire not to.

it's a control thing. it's also abuse.

my heart to you, your child and your situation.

and good on you for your many awards for marksmanship. me too.

could come in handy.

Ok, I am confuzeled

Where is the part about shooting OP's X?

As for OP's ???s I find it disheartining that Dad is insisting that DD "kill" anything however I think others have very well covered the fact that he can not FORCE he to do so...especialy if she gets comfortable enough with a gun to become a good enough shot to miss.

 

[JacobJoel]

Sorry PRO!

Then mommyof4 i redirect all my angst to YOU.

comments and attitude stand.

self-righteousness always weirds me out.

however, i do try to direct it to the right person.

my most sincere, humblest apologies, ms pro. (seriously. i'm very sorry)

as for ideas being planted, come on, all she has to do is read the morning paper. i highly doubt one tiny comment w/a winkie face, is going to redirect OP's entire life.

 

[ProSeDadinMD]

my most sincere, humblest apologies, ms pro. (seriously. i'm very sorry).

I just wanna know how ProSeDadinMD became “ms pro”…

 

[>Charlotte<]

I just wanna know how ProSeDadinMD became “ms pro”...

Maybe it's your penchant for emoticons, that's kinda girly....

Hahahahahaha....<snort>...

 

[NC Mom in Indy]

Wow! I had a meeting with a client. I was not out scouting a target, Mof4.

My ex hid his weapons in teh basement according to our daughter. He did not take the safety class. Only our daughter did. They did not use real guns. I did not know she was going or I would have gone with her.

My ex probably hunts on family owned land so he never gets caught. I am sure he takes way more than the legal limit.

Whomever said that as an abuser he would force our dd to fire the gun, you are correct. He would do anything to make her fire. Lived with him. I know!

JJ - I live in the country and I am proud of my skills. I must agree with what you've said.

Pro- Dad cannot have a firearm in his possession. Taking her to a far in a car with the rifle in the truck would be a violation, right? The weapons are not even supposed to be in the house!


Everyone - It is not the Hunter's Ed class that bothers me. It is the fact that our daughter does NOT want to kill anything, and her dad is telling her that she has to shoot a deer.

I know most of you are thinking of a wooded area where an occasional deer comes through once a week. I am talking about a place where there are a lot of deer because there is no where else for them to go.

I really hope that with a few recorded phone calls and emails from dad the judge will see that dad's only goal is to make our daughter kill something. It is not about the food or loving a sport. He wants her to kill a doe.

 

[LdiJ]

It's the letter of the law that will get you locked up, not the intention. Or do you have some kind of "anecdotal information" to the contrary?

Just sayin'...

No...I thought that the law specified "possession" rather than ownership. However, it has been a long time since I looked at that. From everything that I can see from some brief research, apparently most state laws are even more restrictive than the federal law.

Edit to add:

Yes, its "possession"

Anyone who has been convicted of a felony is banned by federal law from ever possessing &#8220;any firearm or ammunition." Specifically a person "convicted in any court of a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year" cannot possess any firearm in any location. 18 U.S.C. 922(g) is the federal law that prohibits anyone ever convicted of any felony to ever possess any firearm either inside or outside of his home. The federal punishment for felon gun possession is up to 10 years in prison.



Read more: http://peacesecurity.suite101.com/article.cfm/gun_ownership_by_convicted_felons#ixzz0P8sI40cO

 

[profmum]

Don't remember chastising you for promoting self defense. I DID say you were out of line to suggest her expert marksmanship skills would come in handy against the father of her child WHO IS NOT THREATENING OR HARMING OP. Remember? EX has moved on to beating his new wife.

You were out of line and you should NOT have said that....even in a joking matter.

Except JJ did not say this in any fashion, you just assumed it.

 

[aubreyz]

Wow, NC Mom. I'm sorry to see the explosion that has overtaken your thread. I'm shocked by many of the replies you've received. Perhaps I am overly sympathetic because we share some common issues (my 8 yr. old daughter is currently in full custody w/dad, and she and I are vegetarians while dad is not--we argued about her diet in court.)

Before I met my ex-husband, I dated a man for several months who was physically abusive. After reaching out for help back then, I can tell you now that the kind of behavior exhibited by dad here would be towards the top of a checklist on the front page of any pamphlet I ever picked up about domestic violence.

Come on, people! The issue here isn't mom's fear of guns or hunting classes. She is obviously insinuating that her ex has an unhealthy obsession with weapons and violence. Individuals who behave in this manner derive pleasure from the sensation of intimidating and manipulating an unwilling participant into performing acts of violent behavior. At VERY least, they passive-aggressively inflict guilt and shame on the person they are controlling by rendering them helpless when witnessing violence perpetrated by someone else.

Don't beat mom up because she didn't get her wording quite right. She and her daughter fear this situation because it is something more than what Average Joe considers hunting. Abusers are KNOWN for appearing rational to most of the people around them and only exposing their dark side to a trusted few. Saying she "doesn't have to shoot anything but the grass" is like telling the 9 year old here that instead of being able to choose not to kill an animal, she'll have to keep that to herself and pretend she has bad aim. That advice sounds like a recipe for disaster and an invoice for years of therapy!

Mom, it sounds perfectly reasonable to me that you would have a case here. Good luck.

 

[AkersTile]

Mom, I'm with you on this one. Dad needs to realize that if she wants to hunt, she will (or, well, she'll ask you or Dad to take her) If she doesn't want to hunt, don't force her. Noone will be happy with the situation if he does force her. My 10 year old Stepdaughter loves going hunting with Dad, 9 year old Stepdaughter would rather watch paint dry. Maybe she'll change her mind in a couple years. Who knows, but Dad shouldn't be forcing her to do something like that at all.

 

[NC Mom in Indy]

Dad is not receptive to the idea that our daughter does not want to go hunting. I guess I will just have to file something with the courts. He is really stupid, because he is admitting in writing to breaking the law and having firearms in his possession. He is admitting that he will be driving with them in his car. He does not seem to comprehend that driving his car, the only adult in it, and going hunting with a 9yo means that he will be in possession of firearms!

What exactly do a file first? this isn't contempt, so what is it?