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Ohiogal

Queen Bee
I am going to disagree with OG on this one (i.e., the canned response).
Legally my response was correct.

If Dad is agreeable with picking up the kid later because she had homework to finish or any other reason, then no harm, no foul. Dad agreed to it. Good co-parenting is allowing for some flexibility when needed. Frankly on that issue, kudos to Dad.
Yet that is not KIDDO deciding not to go.

And I am going to completely disagree with the "Dad can do what he wants on this time including not allowing time for homework". That is BS. Homework should never be considered optional or trump any other activity short of an emergency or a funeral!!
In your opinion. The problem with that logic is there was non-dad time when the homework could have been done -- Friday night, Sunday night, and Saturday morning. Dad's time is limited compared to mom's.
Having said that, OP, your best option is to get the kids to do their homework before their time with Dad begins or after they are dropped off on Sunday. Yes it sucks, but it gets done! That is the approach I would take.
If they have to do homework on Dad's time, teach them that responsibility. I do it with my first grader, when Dad is too lazy to get her homework done. It can be done!


Which is the whole point of what I was saying. Kiddo had time to do so when dad was not there.
 


Ohiogal

Queen Bee
I agree wholeheartedly with this response. Dad certainly can be flexible if he wishes to be flexible, and homework is such a basic part of parenting that a parenting not allowing time for homework would be considered to be neglecting a child's education.
Actually no. If dad had all of the child's non-school time for the weekend (or the majority of it) except for sleeping that would be one thing. Dad does not. He has one overnight. Homework could have been done Friday night when child was not with dad. Or Saturday morning when child was not with dad. It is not neglect if dad has other plans.
 
In my SD's case, one of the reasons Dad has primary placement is because he proved SD couldn't get her homework done on the nights she was at Mom's house....and this was when SD was in the 2nd grade! Maybe some mediation is in order?
 

LdiJ

Senior Member
In my SD's case, one of the reasons Dad has primary placement is because he proved SD couldn't get her homework done on the nights she was at Mom's house....and this was when SD was in the 2nd grade! Maybe some mediation is in order?
This is weekend homework. That is hardly an indication that the child isn't getting her homework done. Its an indication that it apparently is difficult to get it done on the limited part of the weekend that belongs to mom.
 

justalayman

Senior Member
I'll jump in and get everybody PO'd


it sounds like there is at least an effort on dad's part to accommodate daughters homework and that is absolutely great. Dad and mom should work together to make it this easy every time.


Dad is responsible to make sure daughter gets her homework done regardless whether he gets one overnight or 365. That is being a parent. While it may not seem fair all of dad's time with the daughter is consumed by daughter doing her homework, that is part of being a parent and actually, while dad may really want to go out and play with the kids, he has to be mature about this and realize that his daughter has responsibilities and cannot simply ignore them to go out and play with dad any time he wants. Yes, that is intended to sound like a typical parent child relationship with the roles reversed because that is exactly what it is. Dad, if he really cares about his child, will make all efforts that the daughter takes care of her responsibilities before they go out to play. That is part of being a parent.

I understand OG's point about dad has limited time but the daughters world does not stop just because dad has limited time. She is still going to be held responsible to have her homework done. I would suggest daughter make all efforts to make time with dad quality time with dad but sometimes it just doesn't work that way.

Think about an inverse situation. Daughter comes over and dang, dad gets called in to work. Does dad simply get to use the "but my daughter is here and I only get one overnight and..."? Of course not. He will go to work like he has to. It is called fulfilling one's responsibilities. Daughter will be left to her own vices. It is the same thing.

It's great when it all works out so dad and kids can play golf all weekend but life doesn't work like that and that is part of being a dad.

about kiddo staying home: it almost sounded like there is something in the order that might allow this.

I know it's unusual, but in this case,
the kids do get to decide on going with dad or not.
maybe OP will clarify. If there are no directives that allow this, the OG is absolutely correct and daughter gets no choice, legally.


So califorinamom,

you now know that dad has quite a bit of weekend time. You know kiddo will have a lot of weekend homework and thank goodness she actually wants to do it.

so, as such, if she needs a computer to do it, somebody needs to find her a laptop so she can take it to dad's with her or dad needs to get a computer. While not free, you can find something for a couple hundred bucks. Y'all can think of it just like buying clothes; a necessary expense. Either he needs to fork out the money for a good connection or kiddo gets use dial-up. Most likely your ISP can be accessed via dial-up. If not, kiddo gets to use one of the freebies, like NetZero and will simply have to deal with the ads, that's life but she will at least have access to the internet.

It really does sound like there is some cooperation between the two parents, which is great. If you make this hard on daughter or put her in the middle, the fervor you now see for intellectual growth may be snubbed. Don't do it. Sounds like you have a focused kid on your hands so do not change the prescription on her glasses.
 

profmum

Senior Member
I'll jump in and get everybody PO'd


it sounds like there is at least an effort on dad's part to accommodate daughters homework and that is absolutely great. Dad and mom should work together to make it this easy every time.


Dad is responsible to make sure daughter gets her homework done regardless whether he gets one overnight or 365. That is being a parent. While it may not seem fair all of dad's time with the daughter is consumed by daughter doing her homework, that is part of being a parent and actually, while dad may really want to go out and play with the kids, he has to be mature about this and realize that his daughter has responsibilities and cannot simply ignore them to go out and play with dad any time he wants. Yes, that is intended to sound like a typical parent child relationship with the roles reversed because that is exactly what it is. Dad, if he really cares about his child, will make all efforts that the daughter takes care of her responsibilities before they go out to play. That is part of being a parent.

I understand OG's point about dad has limited time but the daughters world does not stop just because dad has limited time. She is still going to be held responsible to have her homework done. I would suggest daughter make all efforts to make time with dad quality time with dad but sometimes it just doesn't work that way.

Think about an inverse situation. Daughter comes over and dang, dad gets called in to work. Does dad simply get to use the "but my daughter is here and I only get one overnight and..."? Of course not. He will go to work like he has to. It is called fulfilling one's responsibilities. Daughter will be left to her own vices. It is the same thing.

It's great when it all works out so dad and kids can play golf all weekend but life doesn't work like that and that is part of being a dad.

about kiddo staying home: it almost sounded like there is something in the order that might allow this.



maybe OP will clarify. If there are no directives that allow this, the OG is absolutely correct and daughter gets no choice, legally.


So califorinamom,

you now know that dad has quite a bit of weekend time. You know kiddo will have a lot of weekend homework and thank goodness she actually wants to do it.

so, as such, if she needs a computer to do it, somebody needs to find her a laptop so she can take it to dad's with her or dad needs to get a computer. While not free, you can find something for a couple hundred bucks. Y'all can think of it just like buying clothes; a necessary expense. Either he needs to fork out the money for a good connection or kiddo gets use dial-up. Most likely your ISP can be accessed via dial-up. If not, kiddo gets to use one of the freebies, like NetZero and will simply have to deal with the ads, that's life but she will at least have access to the internet.

It really does sound like there is some cooperation between the two parents, which is great. If you make this hard on daughter or put her in the middle, the fervor you now see for intellectual growth may be snubbed. Don't do it. Sounds like you have a focused kid on your hands so do not change the prescription on her glasses.

On the contrary.. very well said!.. specifically to the point about limited time or not, Dad has act like a father.. we don't want to encourage "Disney Dad" behavior do we! And OP, either get the child a laptop (you can get one for $200) OR hope that dad continues to honor the arrangement you two worked out this weekend.
 
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On the contrary.. very well said!.. specifically to the point about limited time or not, Dad has act like a father.. we don't want to encourage "Disney Dad" behavior do we! And OP, either get the child a laptop (you can get one for $200) OR hope that dad continues to honor the arrangement you two worked out this weekend.
Although a laptop is a dangerous proposition for us computer freaks (mobility makes for more time in front of a screen. LOL!) I would have to control myself...
I will definitely look into it.
I might even get lucky and get dad to pay half :eek:
I already have a thumb drive that she could transfer work from laptop to printer.....
This sounds like a good solution.
Daughter will have to be disciplined enough to do homework on the laptop even while her dad and siblings are playing mini golf...OH MY! (I hope you note my sarcasm)
Thanks to all for your input.
 

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