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[FJ1200guy]

I like the Australia idea... but I would beat the crap out of him.

I know, I know, it sounds harsh. But you know what? There is a fine line between respect and fear. And if my kids are leaning a bit on the fear side and it keeps them from doing something that they know is wrong because they will be in trouble with Dad... so be it. This kid obviously has no respect OR fear of Mom or Dad. Lets face it, fear of punishment is what our society is based on...

I'm not saying break bones or anything. And a "roughing up" by dad is alot better than a "roughing up" by DeWayne in cell block B, right?

 

[hexeliebe]

I disagreed on IAAL on this one. You can still get back home from Brazil on $500 but Australia takes at least $900 and that's just to L.A.

As for him being 15, remember poster, the door works in both directions.

 

[irritatedbyex]

You don't know how bad I want to beat this boys ass and he very well deserves it, but I can not lay a finger on him. He begs me to hit him so that he can call the cops on me so he can put me in jail. My ex and son has all ready accused my wife of punching him and she did not even touch him.

Anyways, My wife tells me tonight that she has sent him to his mothers house. She just couldn't take him any longer. He started a fist fight with my other son because my other son wants to live with me and my wife and not with him and thier mom.

 

[jez51]

You don't know how bad I want to beat this boys ass and he very well deserves it, but I can not lay a finger on him. He begs me to hit him so that he can call the cops on me so he can put me in jail. My ex and son has all ready accused my wife of punching him and she did not even touch him.

Anyways, My wife tells me tonight that she has sent him to his mothers house. She just couldn't take him any longer. He started a fist fight with my other son because my other son wants to live with me and my wife and not with him and thier mom.

Have you talked to your local police? You might be surprised at how they will react, if your son was to call them. My niece's 16yr old daughter decided to beat on her mom, my niece fought back, the 16yr old called the police. When they got there, they asked the mom not the daughter if she wanted to press charges, she didn't do it which I thought was a mistake, but they did put the kid in the patrol car and read her the riot act. You and your wife have the right to defend yourselves(within reason), even from your own children. I really sympathize with you, all your Ex is doing is handing your son a key to his future prison cell. She created the monster, let her deal with him....

 

[irritatedbyex]

My wife talked to the police monday and tuesday night when she had to call them on him. The first cop said if he gives her anymore trouble to call back and they will site him to court. Then when she called them on tueday the officer told her that she could press charges because of the threats, he told her she didn't have to do it right then but had some time to decide. He also told her that yes, if she or I touch my son that he and his mother could press charges and we would get arrested. I'm not going to lose my other kids because of him. My wife doesn't want to do it because she doesn't want to be the one to put my son in Y.D.C. He all ready blames her for everything bad in his life and she thinks that will make it worse.

 

[Boxcarbill]

Ah there is nothing like being told that your dad is not your dad to make a child feel bonded and a part of the family. It is the same ole; same ole played out in family courtrooms across the United States. Divorced parents, spending the first 12 years of their children's life warring for custody and then spending the next 6 years dumping their child back and forth and ultimately dumping the human wreckage from this failed relationship onto the public. First the juvenile justice system and then graduating to the criminal justice system.

Everyone all together now: The world loves a baby and every baby is wanted by someone. Right to life. . . and you should keep your baby. . .ad infinitum; ad nauseam. Fast forward 15 years. Now it is: "I say if a fifteen year old can commit an 'adult crime,' they can do an adult sentence. Yeah, man, and I save flip the switch on that little 15 year old b&stard for killing someone. Adult crimes deserve adult punishment."

The masses make me sick. Too damn bad that we cannot sterilize everyone and only reverse it when they can demonstrate their fitness to parent! That would solve the world population problem and solve the ever increasing numbers in the criminal justice in the United States.

 

[VeronicaGia]

To the original poster: sounds like boot camp is the only thing that's going to get through this kids head. I agree with BCBills diatribe, this is the result of many things.

 

[irritatedbyex]

I'm not sure if you're implying that there was a war with the custody of my son. I have let this boy bounce back and forth a lot in these past 12 years. I let him go every time he or she asked to try to keep peace with her and him. I have taken him back into my home spent money on lawyers for custody change so many times and basically lived my life around her schedule. I did this for 12 years until this last year when she started letting him do all those things and lying to me about it. Every time they got into the arguement one of them would threaten the other with sending him back to my house, it was during one of them fights that he was told he is not mine. She never wanted anything to do with our other son, he has chosen that he wants to live with me and also doesn't want to have to go to her house if he does not want to. Thats what the courtdate was all about. When I was told about him finding out about the chance of him not being mine I sat him down and talked with him. I told him that it did not matter to if was or wasn't, I am the one that has been there since birth and nothing would change it but he has chosen not to have anything to do with me instead. He wants me to sign my rights away so that he doesn't have to have anything to do with me.

When I got home tonight, my wife told me that my ex's lawyer called to see if a custody change was agreeable. When my wife told him yes he said that he was going to draw up the papers for custody change and file a motion to dismiss the case we had for Dec. 17. Does this mean that my ex is not fighting for visitation for my other son?

 

[irritatedbyex]

I'm not sure if you're implying that there was a war with the custody of my son. I have let this boy bounce back and forth a lot in these past 12 years. I let him go every time he or she asked to try to keep peace with her and him. I have taken him back into my home spent money on lawyers for custody change so many times and basically lived my life around her schedule. I did this for 12 years until this last year when she started letting him do all those things and lying to me about it. Every time they got into the arguement one of them would threaten the other with sending him back to my house, it was during one of them fights that he was told he is not mine. She never wanted anything to do with our other son, he has chosen that he wants to live with me and also doesn't want to have to go to her house if he does not want to. Thats what the courtdate was all about. When I was told about him finding out about the chance of him not being mine I sat him down and talked with him. I told him that it did not matter to me if was or wasn't, I am the one that has been there since birth and nothing would change it but he has chosen not to have anything to do with me instead. He wants me to sign my rights away so that he doesn't have to have anything to do with me.

When I got home tonight, my wife told me that my ex's lawyer called to see if a custody change was agreeable. When my wife told him yes he said that he was going to draw up the papers for custody change and file a motion to dismiss the case we had for Dec. 17. Does this mean that my ex is not fighting for visitation for our other son?

 

[jez51]

OP

What VG meant is, there is a program for out of control teens, it's called boot camp because of its military like regime. I've heard the success rate is pretty good. It's something to think about if your ex decides to send your son back.