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JenniSam

Member
What is the name of your state? MI

A previous tenant signed an agreement to pay a certain amount to break her lease 2 months into a 12 month agreement and she has failed to make any payments. Based on where she works (her main job), she is "collectible" and we've decided its worth it to pursue her if we can avoid one particular courtroom.

A little background: The property in question is in flint and there is 1 specific judge who is extremely pro-tenant. I've been before him in the past and as a landlord you should always count on 3-4 hearings before he actually issues an eviction no matter how straightforward the case is. Lately, we've been able to avoid getting him as our judge because the attorney we use for evictions is banned from his courtroom (thank goodness). But in this case, our attorney suggested we file in small claims instead of using him. He charges quite a bit for civil cases but evictions are usually a flat fee. Due to the number of complaints, this judge now gets ALL small claims cases and only a few eviction cases. There was a 2011-2012 eviction case that lingered on for months and this judge was ultimately held in contempt of court by a circuit court judge for his refusal to follow the circuit courts decision which ordered him to evict a tenant.

My Question: I do not have a new home address for this tenant. I do have an address for a 2nd job she has, which is outside of the city of flint. Can I file my small claims case in the city where her 2nd job is located since its the only address I have or do I have to file it in the city where the property is located? Can I file it in the city that my LLC is located? I am pretty sure the answer is what I do not what to hear but I thought I'd throw it out there for any out of the box options that I haven't though of.

I am desperately trying to avoid this judge's courtroom. But no point in filing elsewhere if I am going to run into jurisdiction issues. Any other judge and I wouldn't hesitate.

Just looking for suggestions on other options... - Thanks!
 


Zigner

Senior Member, Non-Attorney
I'm not sure why you would expect to file anywhere BUT in small claims...this is no longer a landlord/tenant matter. This is a simple contract dispute.
 

JenniSam

Member
How much money are we talking here?
$2700. Once I get a judgement, collecting from her main job is easy. Issued a garnishment to this company before with no issues. She's been there many years so I don't expect her to go anywhere.
 

Zigner

Senior Member, Non-Attorney
Does your new agreement provide for the award of attorney's fees to the winning party.
 

JenniSam

Member
Probably but why would you want to unless the amount owed is over the maximum for small claims?
Only thought about general civil because I could use my attorney who can't get this specific judge. Going through small claims means I will certainly get him unless I can file in another city.
 

PayrollHRGuy

Senior Member
Unless the new agreement provides for the award of legal fees or your lawyer works for free it likely isn't a good financial move.

What's your problem with the judge?
 

JenniSam

Member
Does your new agreement provide for the award of attorney's fees to the winning party.
New agreement was just an addendum to the existing lease agreement which does address attorney's fees and states that the tenant would be responsible for attorney's fees (assuming the landlord prevails).
 

Zigner

Senior Member, Non-Attorney
New agreement was just an addendum to the existing lease agreement which does address attorney's fees and states that the tenant would be responsible for attorney's fees (assuming the landlord prevails).
If the agreement allows for award of fees as you say, then it might be a wise move to use your attorney. That way, jurisdictional questions won't even be an issue for you as the attorney will be able to figure it out. In any case, since your dispute appears to actually be part of the lease, you can likely file in the jurisdiction that covers the location that the property is located.
 

Zigner

Senior Member, Non-Attorney
As an aside: Kudos to you! It sounds like you're an experienced landlord who covers the various contingencies very well :)
 

JenniSam

Member
Unless the new agreement provides for the award of legal fees or your lawyer works for free it likely isn't a good financial move.

What's your problem with the judge?
I've had him in the past and although this is a small claims case, it stems from a landlord/tenant issue. He does not like to side against a tenant. He's smart (for lack of better terms) and knows that the landlords can't vote against him when we don't live in the city. But he knows the tenants can, so he will find any reason to dismiss or delay an eviction for months. Every case I've had in his court room required at least 3 hearings, one was 5 hearings before he would even order eviction, then we still have to file for a writ which would take forever for him to sign. Now that I our cases are with other judges, we typically have to go to court 1 time, 2 if the tenant strikes a deal and then doesn't follow through and a writ is signed in about 48 hours.
 

Taxing Matters

Overtaxed Member
My Question: I do not have a new home address for this tenant. I do have an address for a 2nd job she has, which is outside of the city of flint. Can I file my small claims case in the city where her 2nd job is located since its the only address I have or do I have to file it in the city where the property is located? Can I file it in the city that my LLC is located? I am pretty sure the answer is what I do not what to hear but I thought I'd throw it out there for any out of the box options that I haven't though of.
This is no longer a landlord tenant matter. It is a contract claim. Jurisdiction is the term that tells you which kind of court may hear your claim, e.g. if your claim is for no more than $6,000 you may bring that claim in small claims court in Michigan. Venue is the term that tells you in which small claims court(s) you may bring the case. The Michigan statute for venue in small claims court is MCL § 600.8415. It says in relevant part:

(1) Except as provided in subsections (3) and (4), in districts of the first class actions in the small claims division shall be filed in the county in which the cause of action arose or in the county in which the defendant is established or resides or is employed. If there is more than 1 defendant, actions shall be filed in the county in which any defendant is established or resides or is employed.
(2) Except as provided in subsections (3) and (4), in districts of the second or third class actions in the small claims division shall be filed in the district in which the cause of action arose or in the district in which the defendant is established or resides or is employed. If there is more than 1 defendant, actions shall be filed in the district in which any defendant is established or resides or is employed.

Subsection (3) deals with suing cities, villages, and townships and subsection (4) deals with suing school districts, so neither of those two concern you. As you can see, you'd bring the claim either in the county (if it is a district of the first class) or the district (for 2nd and 3rd class districts) where the the claim arose or the county/district in which the defendant is established, resides, or is employed. So where the property was that the tenant leased is irrelevant here. You may bring it were the contract arose (which is presumably the county/district where the contract was negotiated and entered into), where the defendant lives, or where the defendant works. So the bottom line is that if you want to sue in the county/district where the defendant now works, you can do that.
 

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