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Juvenile Pot charge on school grounds

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effy_2012

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I am a single father working as a rn in palm springs, CA......I am not home a lot so if he receives probation i will have trouble getting him places.....I drug test him once everyweek, usually every saturday so i know i got the point through to him.... i have harsh punishment for him so will the judge see that i am getting him into enough already at home....will this help weaken his punishment?????
 


Neal1421

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effy_2012 said:
I am a single father working as a rn in palm springs, CA......I am not home a lot so if he receives probation i will have trouble getting him places.....I drug test him once everyweek, usually every saturday so i know i got the point through to him.... i have harsh punishment for him so will the judge see that i am getting him into enough already at home....will this help weaken his punishment?????
Do you honestly think that a judge will see no tv and no phone is a harsh punishment???

effy_2012 said:
lets just say that he hasn't seen television for 2 months.....and hasn't even used a phone to talk unless it is to a parent....
Where is the child's mother?
 

CdwJava

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He WILL be on probation. Accept that.

Any counseling or classes he has to go to will be regular and he might even be able to go by himself. He can learn all about the bus system. This might also teach him personal responsibility.

While I sympathize with the job situation, you have a choice - either raise the child or don't. You may have to make a tough choice about your work and your schedule. If you do NOT parent and supervise this child, things might only get worse. If he is not being adequately supervised now, this may only be the tip of the iceberg and there may be some other serious problems going on that you might be clueless about.

I can tell you from personal experience that 95+% of the kids with whom the police have regular contact have one thing in common: inadequate supervision! It may be by choice or circumstance, but when parents are not aware of what their kids do, and they do not take immediate and appropriate action, they WILL get in to trouble and they WILL become a police problem.

This is a warning flare ... read it, accept it, and act on it before it is too late.

- Carl
 

Just Blue

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xylene said:
Every parent has 7,000 to 25,000 dollars (and up) to throw away on a kid. ;)
Hummm...7-25K...Gee...That would be what the legal bills for Jr. will be if this isn't nipped in the bud!

I'd rather throw away money tring to get help for my childs drug problem than throw away money on attorney fees!!...But then, I love my kid and wouldn't consider it throwing it away...;)
 

xylene

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Silverplum said:
I'm still just tasting those words in my mind, here**************"to throw away on a kid." To "throw away money" for drug treatment for your child. As in, it is not worth the money to try this method of helping your kid.

Whoa. :eek: The taste is bad.
Your reading of it is not too far off the mark - if the kid is a bad seed and has already reached that 'age of wisedom' (irony intended) than no parentally enforced drug treatment is going to do much good.

But, the more nuanced point was that drug treatment is treatment, not punishment.

Any parent using drug treatment as a punitive measure- by definition- is throwing their money away. Thousands of dollars at that

I mean to point out the ridiculousness of suggesting doing soemthing so counterproduction as punishing a child with a theraputic treatment. I leave that to the toilet training with enemas set.
 

Just Blue

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effy_2012 said:
I am a single father working as a rn in palm springs, CA......I am not home a lot so if he receives probation i will have trouble getting him places.....I drug test him once everyweek, usually every saturday so i know i got the point through to him.... i have harsh punishment for him so will the judge see that i am getting him into enough already at home....will this help weaken his punishment?????

Talk to your supervisor about the situation...perhaps they will work with you on this...But you need to be there for him. I know how hard it is to be a single parent..I am one...But you have to do whatever is necessary to help your son now...before he gets into BIG trouble and you have to take time off from work to drive 3 hours to the prison he is in on Visitors Day. He has alread had a dirty UA...Whatever you are doing isn't working! You might call in some favors to help with supervision...See if a friend will help or a family member...anything!
 

Just Blue

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xylene said:
Your reading of it is not too far off the mark - if the kid is a bad seed and has already reached that 'age of wisedom' (irony intended) than no parentally enforced drug treatment is going to do much good.

But, the more nuanced point was that drug treatment is treatment, not punishment.

Any parent using drug treatment as a punitive measure- by definition- is throwing their money away. Thousands of dollars at that

I mean to point out the ridiculousness of suggesting doing soemthing so counterproduction as punishing a child with a theraputic treatment. I leave that to the toilet training with enemas set.
Learn to read AND comprehend...
 
C'mon

I believe the point that Xylene is trying to make is that drug treatment is unaffordable for some parents (as is retaining a lawyer), is ineffective when used in substitution for discipline and is useless (thus a complete waste of money) if the offender is not seeking help nor wants the help.

I happen to agree.

I think that extraordinary measures must be taken when kids get into trouble (why stop at dropping off and picking up at school... my child's school would welcome me to escort child from class to class.). Drug counseling and/or treatment (although not affordable to some parents and ineffective to some kids) included.
 
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