Juvenile Sex Offender Registration in Michigan. Question?

[CdwJava]

If he can prove through competent and reliable evidence & testimony that the encounter was consensual, he might be able to successfully petition for removal from the registry ... assuming that the incident is TRULY as you describe. It depends not only on the ages involved, but also the specific offense(s) for which he was convicted. It is the allegation of force or coercion that may make it impossible for him to get off the list until he is about 39 years old (and, even then, only upon a successful petition).

http://legislature.mi.gov/doc.aspx?mcl-28-728c

He will need to speak with an attorney on this.

 

[davew128]

Would you really be worried about someone that you felt you knew well, who made a big (one time) mistake when they were 14 years old? I really have a problem labeling children as preditors/sex offenders for a one time incident.

Particularly at that age. Had he been a couple of years older I probably would feel differently about it. Or, if he had been 17-18 and the girl 14 I probably would feel differently about it. Just because someone made a mistake when they are a child does not make them sexually attracted to children.

I did things at 14 that by the time I was even 18 wouldn't even consider, simply because. If there was subsequent more recent history I would be very concerned, but geez, 14? I think sometimes people forget how they acted at 14.

 

[OHRoadwarrior]

I did things at 14 that by the time I was even 18 wouldn't even consider, simply because. If there was subsequent more recent history I would be very concerned, but geez, 14? I think sometimes people forget how they acted at 14.

When I was 14, I was helping adult woman commit felonies.

 

[Just Blue]

Based on your Hx you have NO business "advising" others.

 

[swalsh411]

Am I the only one who thinks this is far too much punishment for playing stink finger?

I guess I would be guilty to! (consensual of course)

 

[justalayman]

Am I the only one who thinks this is far too much punishment for playing stink finger?

I guess I would be guilty to! (consensual of course)

IF it was actually consensual, I agree. To me, that is the problem though. The girl claimed coercion. Yes, often times a child is guided into making a certain claim or does so out of fear but there is no way to really know the truth of the matter. Due to that, I have to accept the courts decision and what flows from it because I wasn't there.

 

[Just Blue]

Am I the only one who thinks this is far too much punishment for playing stink finger?

I guess I would be guilty to! (consensual of course)

1. "stink finger" is a nasty term. And in using that term you are voluntering quite a bit about yourself.
2. OP has no ideas what REALLY happened on that bus. But apparently the court, officers and attorney(s) did.

Do you have a daughter? If so, were she to ride the bus to school and her BF were to "stink finger" her against her will...would you be so dismissive and nasty?

 

[quincy]

What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? Michigan

My fiancee is an adjudicated minor convicted of a Tier III offense (Assault with Intent to Penetrate). The incident occurred when he was 14 and he was adjudicated shortly after turning 15. He had been on a school bus with his girlfriend and they were messing around, in typical teenager fashion. He penetrated her with his finger. The bus driver discovered what was going on. . . . .

. . . . even though he had several other students on the bus saying it was consensual and his gf made no protests. . . . .

. . . . especially since it's all over one spineless girl's fear of her parents finding out what she was doing. . . .

These are the comments provided by Kayla in her first post that concern me the most.

This was not an ordinary incident between consenting minors. This was not "typical teenager fashion." The boy had an audience. What he did was in view of other students and a bus driver.

As soon as the bus driver became involved, this became NOT a matter of a "spineless girl" trying to protect against her parents finding out, but an incident that the bus driver was mandated to report. The incident was not within the girl's power to hide.

Although the laws in Michigan have changed a bit since this occurrence, and the fact that minors engage in consensual sexual acts is an accepted fact and will be considered in prosecutions, this does not at all have the sound of a consensual act.

The man should consult with an attorney to go over all facts, as CdwJava wisely advised. That is the only way he will know what his chances are of being removed from the sex offender registry.

 

[OHRoadwarrior]

Am I the only one who thinks this is far too much punishment for playing stink finger?

I guess I would be guilty to! (consensual of course)

Depends on whom and under what circumstances you play. You know that already.