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Some Random Guy

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"3 yards were burned, a fourth with a fence got blackened...though it was minimal damage."
"...started a fire with $25 damage."

Plan on getting a job soon after your stint in juvee. Grass costs a heck of a lot more than fence paint. Neighbors will want restitution.
 


pugfug90

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The grass didn't looks so good from February-May, but little grasslings popped up late April, now June, looks normal.
 

Ohiogal

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If you can't stand the heat dont play with fire

pugfug90 said:
The grass didn't looks so good from February-May, but little grasslings popped up late April, now June, looks normal.
And that doesn't matter. YOU ARE AN ARSONIST! That is what this about. You have no reasoning for it. Your actions caused damage by fire to property. Here is what applies to you if you are between the ages of 13 and 17:
15-11-63.
(a) As used in this Code section, the term:
(1) 'A carefully arranged and monitored home visit' means a home visit during which a child is monitored by appropriate personnel of the Department of Juvenile Justice designated pursuant to regulations of the commissioner of juvenile justice.
(2) 'Designated felony act' means an act which:
(A) Constitutes a second or subsequent offense under subsection (b) of Code Section 16-11-132 if committed by a child 13 to 17 years of age;
(B) If done by an adult, would be one or more of the following crimes:
(i) Kidnapping or arson in the first degree, if done by a child 13 or more years of age;
(ii) Aggravated assault, arson in the second degree, aggravated battery, robbery, armed robbery not involving a firearm, or battery in violation of Code Section 16-5-23.1 if the victim is a teacher or other school personnel, if done by a child 13 or more years of age;


(b) Where a child is found to have committed a designated felony act, the order of disposition shall be made within 20 days of the conclusion of the dispositional hearing and shall include a finding based on a preponderance of the evidence as to whether, for the purposes of this Code section, the child does or does not require restrictive custody under this Code section, in connection with which the court shall make specific written findings of fact as to each of the elements set forth in paragraphs (1) through (5) of subsection (c) of this Code section as related to the particular child. If the court finds that restrictive custody under this Code section is not required, the order of disposition shall be as otherwise provided in this article. If the court finds that restrictive custody is required, it shall continue the proceeding and enter an order of disposition for restrictive custody. Every order under this Code section shall be a dispositional order, shall be made after a dispositional hearing, and shall state the grounds for the order.
(c) In determining whether restrictive custody is required, the court shall consider:
(1) The needs and best interests of the child;
(2) The record and background of the child;
(3) The nature and circumstances of the offense, including whether any injury involved was inflicted by the child or another participant;
(4) The need for protection of the community; and
(5) The age and physical condition of the victim.
(d) Notwithstanding subsection (c) of this Code section, the court shall order restrictive custody in any case where the child is found to have committed a designated felony act in which the child inflicted serious physical injury upon another person who is 62 years of age or more.
(e) When the order is for restrictive custody in the case of a child found to have committed a designated felony act: (1) The order shall provide that:
(A) The child shall be placed in the custody of the Department of Juvenile Justice for an initial period of five years; (B) The child shall initially be confined in a youth development center for a period set by the order, to be not less than 12 nor more than 60 months; provided, however, that time spent in secure detention subsequent to the date of the order and prior to placement in a youth development center shall be counted toward the period set by the order; and, provided, further, that, where the order of the court is made in compliance with subsection (f) of this Code section, the child shall initially be confined in a youth development center for 18 months;
(C) After the period set under subparagraph (B) of this paragraph, the child shall be placed under intensive supervision for a period of 12 months; and
(D) The child may not be released from a youth development center or transferred to a nonsecure facility during the period provided in subparagraph (B) of this paragraph nor may the child be released from intensive supervision during the period provided in subparagraph (C) of this paragraph, unless by court order. No home visits shall be permitted during the first six-month period of confinement in a youth development center unless authorized by the court except for emergency visits for medical treatment or severe illness or death in the family. All home visits must be carefully arranged and monitored while a child is confined in a youth development center, whether such confinement is pursuant to a court order or otherwise;
 

blasted

Junior Member
ARSON 4 MINOR true story..

my stepson and 3 other boys (age 15) were in a church that was under construction..they were playing around with matches and set the church on fire and the whole thing burned to the ground....(this was a year ago) they each had to pay toward the churches deductible and go to a psychologist HOWEVER just this week he had to go to court because the churches insurance co. wants to be reimbursed ($400,000+)..so each boy has to pay 100,000+ dollars and it is set up to be 200.00 a month til pay off (for life). His mother took the house out of her name and put it solely in her new husbands name hoping that this would stop a lien (not sure it will)...what a mess..but I guess they say ARSON is a serious hate crime. Just wanted to let people know Arson crimes are not to be taken lightly..on either end. thx
 

Ohiogal

Queen Bee
blasted said:
my stepson and 3 other boys (age 15) were in a church that was under construction..they were playing around with matches and set the church on fire and the whole thing burned to the ground....(this was a year ago) they each had to pay toward the churches deductible and go to a psychologist HOWEVER just this week he had to go to court because the churches insurance co. wants to be reimbursed ($400,000+)..so each boy has to pay 100,000+ dollars and it is set up to be 200.00 a month til pay off (for life). His mother took the house out of her name and put it solely in her new husbands name hoping that this would stop a lien (not sure it will)...what a mess..but I guess they say ARSON is a serious hate crime. Just wanted to let people know Arson crimes are not to be taken lightly..on either end. thx
Mom better watch it because that could be considered a fraudulent conveyance. And your husband can also be on the hook.
 

pugfug90

Junior Member
Update..

I've been to court twice, 1st one led to psyhological evaluation, 2nd one led to a trial since I pled not guilty. Not guilty because I didn't have a plan to go and start a fire.

In the court, the judge said something like..."Throwing a cigarette into a yard isn't arson, it's stupidity"
Relating to me of course..
 

pugfug90

Junior Member
So update again, it's been almost/over a year, my lawyer keeps getting late to court, so judge delays it.. and late again, delay again.. Hmm..
 
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