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424Smudge

Member
What is the name of your state? We live in Illinois but the childre live in Arizona.

My husband and I are adopting a child. There is of course a lot of information that must be submitted with the packet that we have to submit. 1 of these things includes:

- Medical reports for everyone in the home (includes TB test).

How do we go about getting this done on the children when they are not out here? We cannot plan our adoption around the chance that mom will send them for their spring break this year. Also mom has sole custody and the court paperwork says she has the sole decision on all medical decisions. This report includes a complete physical and we are willing to pay for it all but I am worried that if mom finds out where we are adopting from that she will call the company up and try to ruin it for us. This is our only chance of having children because of medical problems on my behalf.

My question is, how can we get the medical reports without mom knowing whom we are going through? I know that it might be possible to request this through the courts but I am afraid they will want to know who we are going through.
 


bononos

Senior Member
424Smudge said:
What is the name of your state? We live in Illinois but the childre live in Arizona.

My husband and I are adopting a child. There is of course a lot of information that must be submitted with the packet that we have to submit. 1 of these things includes:

- Medical reports for everyone in the home (includes TB test).

How do we go about getting this done on the children when they are not out here? We cannot plan our adoption around the chance that mom will send them for their spring break this year. Also mom has sole custody and the court paperwork says she has the sole decision on all medical decisions. This report includes a complete physical and we are willing to pay for it all but I am worried that if mom finds out where we are adopting from that she will call the company up and try to ruin it for us. This is our only chance of having children because of medical problems on my behalf.

My question is, how can we get the medical reports without mom knowing whom we are going through? I know that it might be possible to request this through the courts but I am afraid they will want to know who we are going through.
Are you allowed access to all records?
I'm guessing yes.
Have the kids ever had physicals?
Sorry, but how old are they?


Edit...they don't actually live there so do you need this for them?
 

casa

Senior Member
424Smudge said:
What is the name of your state? We live in Illinois but the childre live in Arizona.

My husband and I are adopting a child. There is of course a lot of information that must be submitted with the packet that we have to submit. 1 of these things includes:

- Medical reports for everyone in the home (includes TB test).

How do we go about getting this done on the children when they are not out here? We cannot plan our adoption around the chance that mom will send them for their spring break this year. Also mom has sole custody and the court paperwork says she has the sole decision on all medical decisions. This report includes a complete physical and we are willing to pay for it all but I am worried that if mom finds out where we are adopting from that she will call the company up and try to ruin it for us. This is our only chance of having children because of medical problems on my behalf.

My question is, how can we get the medical reports without mom knowing whom we are going through? I know that it might be possible to request this through the courts but I am afraid they will want to know who we are going through.
Dad has a legal right to all his children's medical and school records, whether he is the Custodial Parent or not. The only exception to that is if there is a court order which specifically bars a parent from that acess <very unusual>. He need only contact the treating providers and request them. (There is sometimes a copy fee).

If Dad does not know how to request the records, there are easy form letters provided at www.deltabravo.net The Federal Law which gives Dad that right is FERPA
 

424Smudge

Member
These are not medical records these are medical reports that need to be done on the children. They need a physical and a TB test done. I gather that they might have had physicals done before the school year started but I am sure a TB test was not part of this. Yes the children need these done since dad technicall has visitation with them 158 days a year even though mom does not send them, the adoption agency looks at the court order as a judge of the amount of time spent out here. The children are almost 9 and the other is 11 so they are old enough for the test. Trust me if there was any other way to do this without mom knowing we would do it but we also want the children involved in this adoption process just as much as we would want them involved in a birthing process. WE will need the medical records as well but I already know about the "right to information act" and how to get those.
 

nextwife

Senior Member
Perhaps Dad can file for a CO requiring Mom to take the kids to get these tests done at Dad's expense? Betcha if he explained that this is a preadoptive necessity, the Judge would allow it and accommidate.

WE also had to have AIDs tests. But maybe those are only required of the primary caregivers? And criminal background checks for all parties residing in our home.

Mom will go frikin' nuts trying to figure out why a judge would order a TB Test!

For clarification purposes, perhaps it would be easier to refer to what's needed as Medical Tests. Because you are testing for TB exposure.
 
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bononos

Senior Member
Well then, it's none of her business WHY you need them.
Request the records and any TB results.

OR, be honest, she doesn't have any right to know any info. about what agency you are using so she cannot contact them. If she refuses, you'll need to get a judge to compel her by order.
 

Zephyr

Senior Member
bononos said:
Well then, it's none of her business WHY you need them.
Request the records and any TB results.

OR, be honest, she doesn't have any right to know any info. about what agency you are using so she cannot contact them. If she refuses, you'll need to get a judge to compel her by order.

or flat out lie- tell her the name of a different agency
 

424Smudge

Member
I think I might do a formal written request through her lawyer first and see how that goes. Background checks are also required but that is only for people 13 years or older so it is not necessary for the 2 younger ones. The oldest is 16 and is VERY excited about having a new brother and can have the tests done without moms permission.
 

casa

Senior Member
424Smudge said:
I think I might do a formal written request through her lawyer first and see how that goes. Background checks are also required but that is only for people 13 years or older so it is not necessary for the 2 younger ones. The oldest is 16 and is VERY excited about having a new brother and can have the tests done without moms permission.
It varies from county/state...because both my children had to have physicals and TB tests. Children in my county have a TB test every year for school.

Dad needs to request the records before he can determine what has or hasn't already been done & go from there.

And I'm sure an adoption rep. would understand an X spouse having something 'unflattering' to say...and I doubt that would be the determining factor in approving the adoption.
 

bononos

Senior Member
424Smudge said:
I think I might do a formal written request through her lawyer first and see how that goes. Background checks are also required but that is only for people 13 years or older so it is not necessary for the 2 younger ones. The oldest is 16 and is VERY excited about having a new brother and can have the tests done without moms permission.
If the kids are aware of the adoption I would assume mom knows already?!?
That's a good idea. Try it the written route and you may avoid court if she just agrees.
 

nextwife

Senior Member
I agree. Don't tell her the agency!

Tell her she can put any legally valid requests through your attorney.

Is this Domestic? Give her the name of some agency in Kazahkstan or Uganda That will really throw her off.
 

bononos

Senior Member
casa said:
It varies from county/state...because both my children had to have physicals and TB tests. Children in my county have a TB test every year for school.

Dad needs to request the records before he can determine what has or hasn't already been done & go from there.

And I'm sure an adoption rep. would understand an X spouse having something 'unflattering' to say...and I doubt that would be the determining factor in approving the adoption.
Were they even married?
 

casa

Senior Member
bononos said:
Were they even married?
There's a visitation order, so legally Dad is Dad. He doesn't need to have been married to her, or even be the Custodial Parent to access records.
 

bononos

Senior Member
casa said:
There's a visitation order, so legally Dad is Dad. He doesn't need to have been married to her, or even be the Custodial Parent to access records.
I was wondering cause you said "X Spouse".
I would think an adoption agency would request to interview the mother of his other kids anyways.
Do they not plan to do this?
 

424Smudge

Member
No interview with the ex is required as it is not pertinent to the case. If they called in everybody's babies mommas then there would be no adoptions because there would be NOTHING flattering to say. Yes they were married, yes he has a court order allowing him visitation during all school breaks and NO the two children in question here do not yet know about the adoption yet.
 

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