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My roommate and I have a lease with the landlord. His child is unexpectedly living here.

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travistee2

Active Member
What is the name of your state? CT

My roommate had the apartment with his wife and daughter. His is divorced and when we both signed a new lease with the landlord his daughter was not mentioned anywhere. He told me she would be here one day a week. I did not think that was a problem. When I moved in he told me that he had a new agreement with his wife and now she would be living here and only visiting his wife. She is about 5 or 6.

Recently I was watching an HBO movie that may have been R rated or something like that. There were unexpected adult type sounds in the movie. He got upset about that and disconnected the TV.

The TV is not the main issue. My problem is that I now find myself living in an apartment with a young child that is not mentioned anywhere in the lease and this is an intrusion on my rights as an adult in an apartment that I pay for. I am thinking what will happen if I bring a girlfriend here. Will that be appropriate or am I now restricted to child safe activities.

I plan to write a letter to the landlord and ask for a reduction in the rent. My roommate was planning to leave in about a month anyway. Perhaps he should leave earlier.

So I am looking for some advice and wisdom on the best way to handle this.
 


stealth2

Under the Radar Member
Not legal advice, but... it's a *month* you're talking about it being an issue? Deal with it for a month. Surely, you can manage to keep "adult" activities to your bedroom for that long. My more pressing questions would be whether I could manage the full rent on my own, roommie will keep paying his share (don't count on it) or do I need to find a new roomie...
 

Zigner

Senior Member, Non-Attorney
What is the name of your state? CT

My roommate had the apartment with his wife and daughter. His is divorced and when we both signed a new lease with the landlord his daughter was not mentioned anywhere. He told me she would be here one day a week. I did not think that was a problem. When I moved in he told me that he had a new agreement with his wife and now she would be living here and only visiting his wife. She is about 5 or 6.

Recently I was watching an HBO movie that may have been R rated or something like that. There were unexpected adult type sounds in the movie. He got upset about that and disconnected the TV.

The TV is not the main issue. My problem is that I now find myself living in an apartment with a young child that is not mentioned anywhere in the lease and this is an intrusion on my rights as an adult in an apartment that I pay for. I am thinking what will happen if I bring a girlfriend here. Will that be appropriate or am I now restricted to child safe activities.

I plan to write a letter to the landlord and ask for a reduction in the rent. My roommate was planning to leave in about a month anyway. Perhaps he should leave earlier.

So I am looking for some advice and wisdom on the best way to handle this.
The best advice is to just let it ride for a month until the roommate is gone.
 

not2cleverRed

Obvious Observer
What is the name of your state? CT

My roommate had the apartment with his wife and daughter. His is divorced and when we both signed a new lease with the landlord his daughter was not mentioned anywhere. He told me she would be here one day a week. I did not think that was a problem. When I moved in he told me that he had a new agreement with his wife and now she would be living here and only visiting his wife. She is about 5 or 6.

Recently I was watching an HBO movie that may have been R rated or something like that. There were unexpected adult type sounds in the movie. He got upset about that and disconnected the TV.

The TV is not the main issue. My problem is that I now find myself living in an apartment with a young child that is not mentioned anywhere in the lease and this is an intrusion on my rights as an adult in an apartment that I pay for. I am thinking what will happen if I bring a girlfriend here. Will that be appropriate or am I now restricted to child safe activities.

I plan to write a letter to the landlord and ask for a reduction in the rent. My roommate was planning to leave in about a month anyway. Perhaps he should leave earlier.

So I am looking for some advice and wisdom on the best way to handle this.
Advice:
1) Confirm that your roommate is moving soon.
2) Invest in head phones or earbuds.
3) Valentine's Day is in "about a month". This is a bad/awkward time to hook up with anyone new; bring a girlfriend home and she might expect a $$ gift 2/14. So wait and save some money on roses, etc.
 

travistee2

Active Member
Advice:
1) Confirm that your roommate is moving soon.
2) Invest in head phones or earbuds.
3) Valentine's Day is in "about a month". This is a bad/awkward time to hook up with anyone new; bring a girlfriend home and she might expect a $$ gift 2/14. So wait and save some money on roses, etc.
Isn't giving a money gift illegal? Sounds like a "date" where the girl gets paid. OK, lets stay on topic.
 

stealth2

Under the Radar Member
Isn't giving a money gift illegal? Sounds like a "date" where the girl gets paid. OK, lets stay on topic.
$$ gift = expensive gift in the real world where people don't need to pay for sex. The point being made is getting one since you don't already have a steady girl, hold off until after roommie moves w/the child. Then you don't really have to worry about adult vs child-safe activities. Watch racy movies in your room.
 

not2cleverRed

Obvious Observer
Isn't giving a money gift illegal? Sounds like a "date" where the girl gets paid. OK, lets stay on topic.
The fact that you can't understand that "$$ gift" is short for "expensive gift" speaks volumes. While prostitution is illegal, giving a monetary gift is not - it's just considered tacky and unthoughtful as a gift to a romantic partner, especially on Valentine's Day. (Gift cards aren't quite as bad, if chosen to reflect her interests.)

Roses in February cost a lot, and wildflowers aren't exactly blooming in Connecticut at that time, not even snow drops.

If you suddenly start dating someone near Valentine's Day, there might be the expectation of any one of the following: flowers, chocolate, candlelight dinner, jewelry.

Granted, I can't imagine that you're the sort of fellow who gets many second dates, based on your posting history. But "every pot has a lid" ...

So yes, on topic: stop watching porn. Don't bring strange women home to have sex with.

How do you know that the roommate hasn't already got the all-clear from the landlord to have his daughter there? And even if he hasn't, how do you know that the landlord wouldn't be sympathetic? It's a great way to get yourself labelled as the annoying tenant. And even if the landlord agrees with you, your roommate would be due a 15 day notice before the landlord files for eviction - this close to move out, it might be just cheaper and easier for the landlord to avoid that.
 

travistee2

Active Member
I knew I could count on this thread going off on irrelevant tangents.
Every time I posted a question here the "usual suspects" turn it into a forum to talk about everything besides the actual question.

The key words were "OK, lets stay on topic."
 

not2cleverRed

Obvious Observer
I knew I could count on this thread going off on irrelevant tangents.
Every time I posted a question here the "usual suspects" turn it into a forum to talk about everything besides the actual question.

The key words were "OK, lets stay on topic."
How do you know that the roommate hasn't already got the all-clear from the landlord to have his daughter there? And even if he hasn't, how do you know that the landlord wouldn't be sympathetic? It's a great way to get yourself labelled as the annoying tenant. And even if the landlord agrees with you, your roommate would be due a 15 day notice before the landlord files for eviction - this close to move out, it might be just cheaper and easier for the landlord to avoid that.

Per your initial post:
So I am looking for some advice and wisdom on the best way to handle this.
 

travistee2

Active Member
What I do know is that I have a lease with the landlord and the roommate has the same lease.
The child is not on the lease. Lets keep it to the law and the facts.
 

FarmerJ

Senior Member
Your landlord I suspect is rather hog tied by fair housing laws since changes in parental custody can and do happen the bigger issue is with the child being there now full time more or less is your anger at the roommate , SO just to make sure , is there only a short time left on the lease you are both in ? if so has the LL been given proper notice by your roommate regarding upcoming move ? and lastly once the roommate is gone are you able to afford the place by your self or will you have to find a roommate of your own. You are free to consult with a Attorney to learn more about your options but seriously with such a short time before the roommate moves out It just doesn't seem like its worth doing anything about it If you learn you have legal options . ( also if you can swing it and the LL has any other smaller units like a one bedroom available perhaps the LL would be happy to see you stay on but in a smaller unit.
 

STEPHAN

Senior Member
Does your lease guarantee you that she is not there? If you don't have that in writing, you are out of luck. He can change the other lease without asking you.
 

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