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What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? Kentucky

First of all, Thanks in advance for any help or insight you can provide. My brother just contacted me absolutely frantic and wanting to "pick my brain" I don't have the knowledge he needs right now, so I am turning to you for guidance.

My brother has joint legal custody of his 2 daughters and does pay child support, they do live with their mom. The mom and he do have a pretty good relationship, they do at least communicate. The oldest child will be 18 in June and the youngest just turned 17. Both of these girls have infant children, the oldest one's child is about 1 1/2 and the youngest has one that is about 9 months.

Neither of my nieces are with are with the babies fathers, however the fathers families in both situations do have regular visitation with the babies.

Social Services has been involved most especially due to my youngest nieces baby. Bottom line, the family wants custody of the baby. They have been very verbal about this and we strongly suspect that all of the "issues" being reported are due to them. One complaint that was investigated was because the baby was taken to Jewish Hospital instead of Nortons....baby had a cold and she was concerned about the breathing. They have visited the home multiple times and even though my niece is young (and dumb) mainly due to her Mom, the home is not an unfit situation. However, this particular worker is relentless. Most recently, they have required my x-sil and both of my nieces to submit to urine drug tests at a cost to them (my brother) or if they couldn't afford it be considered a "failure" and risk losing all of the children in the home (my x-sil also has a 3 yo)

Well, the results of that test came back negative. Now the worker says my x-sil and both of my nieces now have to submit to hair follicle testing. How can they get away with this? What can my brother do? Isnt this harrassment? They have complied with their every request, everything to date has be unfounded. This has become a fishing expedition, JMHO>

They are supposed to meet for the follicle testing in the morning but I told him to wait until I heard back from you guys. This is a small county where Im positive the back woods mentality and somebody knowing somebody is in full force. My x-sil has given her 3 yo to her Daddy to remove her from their clutches, my youngest niece has moved in with my brother in another state to distance her from the situation and my oldest niece is staying with other family.

What can they do? Please help.What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)?
 


LdiJ

Senior Member
What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? Kentucky

First of all, Thanks in advance for any help or insight you can provide. My brother just contacted me absolutely frantic and wanting to "pick my brain" I don't have the knowledge he needs right now, so I am turning to you for guidance.

My brother has joint legal custody of his 2 daughters and does pay child support, they do live with their mom. The mom and he do have a pretty good relationship, they do at least communicate. The oldest child will be 18 in June and the youngest just turned 17. Both of these girls have infant children, the oldest one's child is about 1 1/2 and the youngest has one that is about 9 months.

Neither of my nieces are with are with the babies fathers, however the fathers families in both situations do have regular visitation with the babies.

Social Services has been involved most especially due to my youngest nieces baby. Bottom line, the family wants custody of the baby. They have been very verbal about this and we strongly suspect that all of the "issues" being reported are due to them. One complaint that was investigated was because the baby was taken to Jewish Hospital instead of Nortons....baby had a cold and she was concerned about the breathing. They have visited the home multiple times and even though my niece is young (and dumb) mainly due to her Mom, the home is not an unfit situation. However, this particular worker is relentless. Most recently, they have required my x-sil and both of my nieces to submit to urine drug tests at a cost to them (my brother) or if they couldn't afford it be considered a "failure" and risk losing all of the children in the home (my x-sil also has a 3 yo)

Well, the results of that test came back negative. Now the worker says my x-sil and both of my nieces now have to submit to hair follicle testing. How can they get away with this? What can my brother do? Isnt this harrassment? They have complied with their every request, everything to date has be unfounded. This has become a fishing expedition, JMHO>

They are supposed to meet for the follicle testing in the morning but I told him to wait until I heard back from you guys. This is a small county where Im positive the back woods mentality and somebody knowing somebody is in full force. My x-sil has given her 3 yo to her Daddy to remove her from their clutches, my youngest niece has moved in with my brother in another state to distance her from the situation and my oldest niece is staying with other family.

What can they do? Please help.What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)?
They really need an attorney in my opinion. I agree that there is a definite "fishing expedition" going on...with constitutional rights being violated all over the place.
 

Proserpina

Senior Member
Seriously - this goes beyond a message board site.

An attorney is ESSENTIAL. They can't afford NOT to get an attorney involved.
 

Antigone*

Senior Member
Seriously - this goes beyond a message board site.

An attorney is ESSENTIAL. They can't afford NOT to get an attorney involved.
You've got to wonder what mom is really doing though:confused::(. Both her juvenile daughter with babies:eek:. Something definitely not right with the parenting there. It would certainly add to any suspicions.

Not saying that what is happening is right, just saying the situation your family put itself into is not helping things at all.
 
You've got to wonder what mom is really doing though:confused::(. Both her juvenile daughter with babies:eek:. Something definitely not right with the parenting there. It would certainly add to any suspicions.

Not saying that what is happening is right, just saying the situation your family put itself into is not helping things at all.
I agree with this statement, our family agrees with this statement.;) No, there were alot of very, very poor choices being made by x-sil (not bashing, just stating obvious facts based on what you've pointed out) However, it was one of those situations that no matter what parenting choices she made, it was never quite enough to be a change of circumstance. Seems sometimes crappy parenting is not necessarily enough to change custody, BTDT. And x-sil would not willingly allow the girls to live with my brother, again not bashing but she wanted the child support to much.

So, the girls were pretty much allowed to do as they please. Although I don't agree with the choices my nieces have made or my brother for that matter, and even though I don't personally feel that either of these girls have the mentality for raising a child, I believe the babies are being cared for and trying to take them by strong arming is my primary concern.

Its one of those stereotypical situations, moms mom was a teenage parent, x-sil was....the cycle continues......so sad:(
 

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