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Need to get ex’s death certificate

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JEA0409

Member
What is the name of your state? I live in IL, ex moved to MS in 2000, and passed away in 2022

our prior mortgage co from 10+ yrs ago sent a letter addressed to my deceased ex regarding an uncashed remediation check sent in July. The letter was sent to my home address in IL, but upon opening it I saw the letter itself was addressed to both of us at my ex’s MS address. Upon calling the mortgage company they said the check was payable to both of us since we were both listed on the mortgage loan, but it was sent to my ex‘s Mississippi address where he resided with his mother. When I explained my ex passed away in 2022 the mortgage company told me to get a copy of his death certificate and send it to them with a request that the check be reissued payable to him OR me and sent to my address in IL. For background, we split in 2000, the house was awarded to me, which is recorded in our divorce decree. I’ve paid the mortgage since 2000 - he was paying child support Only and did not contribute to any mortgage payments.

According to the MS vital records website it appears as the “ex“ spouse I don’t have the right to request his death certificate. And if I can request it I honestly don’t remember his exact birthdate nor do I have his social security number, which is requested information. We did not part on good terms - he was an alcoholic and after he moved out of state he didn’t make an effort to stay in touch with his kids. His mother blamed me for everything that went wrong so it’s not as easy as just asking her for a copy of the death certificate, plus she’s an elderly woman and I don’t want to bother her with this. I could have our son or daughter request it (both are adults), but how do we go about it without is dob & social?

any ideas how to go about this? Thanks
 


LdiJ

Senior Member
What is the name of your state? I live in IL, ex moved to MS in 2000, and passed away in 2022

our prior mortgage co from 10+ yrs ago sent a letter addressed to my deceased ex regarding an uncashed remediation check sent in July. The letter was sent to my home address in IL, but upon opening it I saw the letter itself was addressed to both of us at my ex’s MS address. Upon calling the mortgage company they said the check was payable to both of us since we were both listed on the mortgage loan, but it was sent to my ex‘s Mississippi address where he resided with his mother. When I explained my ex passed away in 2022 the mortgage company told me to get a copy of his death certificate and send it to them with a request that the check be reissued payable to him OR me and sent to my address in IL. For background, we split in 2000, the house was awarded to me, which is recorded in our divorce decree. I’ve paid the mortgage since 2000 - he was paying child support Only and did not contribute to any mortgage payments.

According to the MS vital records website it appears as the “ex“ spouse I don’t have the right to request his death certificate. And if I can request it I honestly don’t remember his exact birthdate nor do I have his social security number, which is requested information. We did not part on good terms - he was an alcoholic and after he moved out of state he didn’t make an effort to stay in touch with his kids. His mother blamed me for everything that went wrong so it’s not as easy as just asking her for a copy of the death certificate, plus she’s an elderly woman and I don’t want to bother her with this. I could have our son or daughter request it (both are adults), but how do we go about it without is dob & social?

any ideas how to go about this? Thanks
They should be able to ask their grandmother for his date of birth. However, you could also contact the department of vital records in the state where he passed away and discuss the situation with them. They may be able to offer alternatives.
 

zddoodah

Active Member
According to the MS vital records website it appears as the “ex“ spouse I don’t have the right to request his death certificate.
Section 41-57-2 of the Mississippi Code expressly says that "any person with a legitimate and tangible interest" may obtain a copy. The MS Dep't of Health form for requesting a DC says that "[a] certified copy of a death certificate can be issued only to a person with legitimate and tangible interest as defined by the Rules Governing the Registration and Certification of Vital Events." Those Rules can be found here. Rule 2.1.4 lists various categories of persons with "a legitimate and tangible interest," including "Individuals, groups or other entities needing the information for determination or protection of a personal or property right." Where are you seeing something that excludes an ex-spouse?


I honestly don’t remember his exact birthdate nor do I have his social security number
Do your children really not know their father's date of birth or can't they ask their grandmother for the DOB (or even for a copy of the DC)? I strongly suspect that the SSN is not required. Have you googled "[ex's name] obituary" or "[ex's name] grave"? There are websites that collect grave information and often have photos of the stone, which typically have dates of birth and death.

How much money is at issue, BTW? If it's more than a couple thousand, it may be worth spending a couple hundred to hire a private investigator to gather some of the needed info.
 

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