Neglect, or normal kid stuff?

[CJane]

Stealth ~ I wasn't even thinking about taking anyone to court over this. Though I do wonder what would happen if the roles were reversed. (Not on this board, but if he were in my shoes.)

Pleazzzz!
You said "My ex's wife wouldn't actually get in the water with the girls, because she just found out she's pregnant and was afraid there was 'too much bacteria in the water', and her mother has MS and 'can barely walk'. So, I'm wondering who, exactly would have rescued the children if they'd gotten into serious trouble, not to mention the fact that if there's bacteria in the water that's THAT scary, what were my kids doing in it????"

You are overreacting and looking too hard for evidence of what ever your intent.

Rmet ~ I was quoting what my ex's wife has told me (about her mother's condition and why she wouldn't get in the water). I thought it was more than a little weird that she wouldn't go into the water due to what SHE perceives as excessive bacteria, and yet let the kids go in it. I'm pregnant too, and my doctor has NEVER warned me about going in the water. So, I have to assume that she made this determination all on her own.

I wasn't stating that it was MY opinion that the water was nasty. Lord knows, I've spent enough time in farm ponds/lakes/creeks/rivers in my life to not be afraid of a few germs that might be living in the water. But to me, if you're going to determine that the water is unsafe, that generally applies to everyone.

And I have no intent, nor any desire to gather evidence. I was asking a question. I have no desire to prove my ex unfit, to make him spend less time with the kids, to keep his new wife away from the kids, or anything else. Mostly, I'm curious what does and does not constitute neglectful behavior, and I wasn't sure if this did or not. I have no intent to USE that information for anything at all other than my own information.

Thanks for your input though.

 

[stealth2]

Mostly, I'm curious what does and does not constitute neglectful behavior, and I wasn't sure if this did or not. I have no intent to USE that information for anything at all other than my own information.

What you described does not.

 

[bononos]

Kind of the same theory as cats and pregnant women.
We let our kids around cats, but it is recommended that pregnant woman stay clear or at least cautious due to bacterias that can harm pregnancy, probably alike to the pond bacteria.

 

[CJane]

Kind of the same theory as cats and pregnant women.
We let our kids around cats, but it is recommended that pregnant woman stay clear or at least cautious due to bacterias that can harm pregnancy, probably alike to the pond bacteria.

Heh. I was THRILLED when I found out I was pregnant (all 3 times) because it meant no more cat box cleaning! lol

And, I suppose I can see that, it's just that I've never heard anything like that before with regards to water. So, it seemed odd to me.

 

[rmet4nzkx]

Jane, you better talk to your doctor then!

 

[kayceebee]

My issue wasn't and won't be WHERE THEY WERE. My issue is that proper supervison (to me) isn't 2 adults sitting on the dock - 1 who CAN'T get in the water, and 1 who WON'T.

I often am not IN the river when my kids are swimming. I am sitting in the boat watching them. I jump in to cool off, but swimming around in the Ohio River isn't my cup of tea. I could get to them without a problem if necessary. I'm sure someone wouldn't have hesitated to go in if needed.

To answer your original question: just normal kid stuff.

 

[Just Blue]

Heh. I was THRILLED when I found out I was pregnant (all 3 times) because it meant no more cat box cleaning! lol

And, I suppose I can see that, it's just that I've never heard anything like that before with regards to water. So, it seemed odd to me.

Gotta agree with rmet on this one....cjane talk to your doctor. My OB told me NO fresh water swimming ...thank goodness I live 5 min from the ocean! But personally I wouldn't let my kids in a farm pond...it's not the fish poop I would worry about, it's the duck and goose poop! The one's I've seen are too gross!!!

 

[CJane]

Gotta agree with rmet on this one....cjane talk to your doctor. My OB told me NO fresh water swimming ...thank goodness I live 5 min from the ocean! But personally I wouldn't let my kids in a farm pond...it's not the fish poop I would worry about, it's the duck and goose poop! The one's I've seen are too gross!!!

They grew up with ducks and geese in their backyard, so I'm not too worried about any of that stuff. They're farm kids, probably immune to anything, yanno?

Weird that my doc never mentioned the water thing. I'll have to call him. Though it's too late, I've already been swimming in the lake several times since I got preggers.

 

[rmet4nzkx]

Here are some links to articles on the dangers of E. Coli 1057 in pond water
E.Coli News - Healthcare Industry Today E.Coli. Service for healthcare industry professionals and analysts. ... water drawn from the inland pond had a reading of 411 colonies of E. coli bacteria ...
http://www.healthcareindustrytoday.com/news/EColi


The Survival of E. coli O157:H7 in Catfish and Pond Water
fish and pond water for E. coli O157:H7 analysis. ... Waters from two of the. three ponds sustained the survival of E. coli O157:H7 up to 12 days. ...
http://sst.ifas.ufl.edu/25thAnn/file08.pdf


Concentrating on Clean Water:
and colleagues (2003) found that in fresh water, E. coli is a more consistent ... young children, pregnant women, elderly residents). E. coli O157 is ...
http://www.iowapolicyproject.org/2005_reports_press_releases/050406-cafo-fullx.pdf

Caution for pregnant women is a valid one, it doesn't mean that in an emergency it would not be an exception. Swimming pools are a different story, cantions can also include veggies irrigated with well water, there was an outbreak of E. Coli 0157 in green onions 2 years ago.

 

[rmet4nzkx]

You come here with one complaint and Providence would have you learn some important health information for your self.

 

[CJane]

You come here with one complaint and Providence would have you learn some important health information for your self.

Yup, that's the way my life works. Thanks for the info!

 

[rmet4nzkx]

Yup, that's the way my life works. Thanks for the info!

You are welcome, you should also thank the pregnant stepmom for bringing it to your attention.

 

[CJane]

You are welcome, you should also thank the pregnant stepmom for bringing it to your attention.

Yeah, I probably should. Good thing I'll see her tonight, huh?

 

[rmet4nzkx]

Yeah, I probably should. Good thing I'll see her tonight, huh?

That's how Providence works.

 

[TNBSMommy]

While filming Lord of the Rings, Sean Astin sliced his foot in water, and had to go get stitches. If I am not mistaken, they had divers out prior to filming the scene to clear any debris b/c he only had those hobbit "feet" on, wouldn't you know, the one piece they missed, happened to be right where he stuck his foot.

I've got to say, I can understand to an extent about the river shoes preventing the cut, but even if an adult was in the water with your children, short of holding them up so their feet don't hit the bottom, your daughter still more than likely would have ended up cut.

My next door neighbor has two boys, one of them has spent so much time in the ER he jokes when he goes in, saying "I've been in that bed, that bed, etc." He's exTREMELY accident prone, her other son, a year older, has only been really hurt once, while they were with their dad, at the park, he fell of a swing and broke his arm, requiring pins and more than one setting of the bones.

Things happen, I personally consider myself extremely lucky that with my children(being that they are MY children, and I am accident prone~nothing against their dad~!!!!) We've only had a small amount of incidents requiring ER trips, the worse being when one my son and daughter decided to jump off the bed, my son now has a Harry Potter type scar on his forehead, he hit a dresser.