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mandm2008

Junior Member
What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? Iowa

When one parent is deceased and the other receives full custody, what is the normal visitation given to grandparents? I have tried to research this and found no answers. Just looking for some advice as to what to expect.
 


Isis1

Senior Member
What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? Iowa

When one parent is deceased and the other receives full custody, what is the normal visitation given to grandparents? I have tried to research this and found no answers. Just looking for some advice as to what to expect.
there is nothing about "normal" visitation for grandparents.

grandparents have no inherent rights.

are you the parent of the deceased parent?

ETA: strike that, i just read your other thread. if you are asking on behalf of dad, visitation is at his discretion. are grandparents suing for visitation?
 
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mandm2008

Junior Member
yes i am asking on behalf of dad.....they were going to go after custody but he has jumped through all their hoops in order to avoid an all out war.....just wondering what would be good for visitation......the kids are used to seeing his ex-in-laws pretty much daily.....but now that everything has changed they need to get used to a new routine.....any suggestions?
 

Isis1

Senior Member
yes i am asking on behalf of dad.....they were going to go after custody but he has jumped through all their hoops in order to avoid an all out war.....just wondering what would be good for visitation......the kids are used to seeing his ex-in-laws pretty much daily.....but now that everything has changed they need to get used to a new routine.....any suggestions?
it's up to dad. he can do 1 overnight a week, 1 overnight a month with a day visit every weekend.

what is accomodating to dad?

were ex in law babysitters while parents were working? can they remain babysitters?

my personal hesitation is to start off a bit slow. give everyone, children included, time to breathe.
 

mandm2008

Junior Member
that is also my personal thoughts.....but keeping his kids in mind, they are young, just lost their mother, and are used to seeing these people regularly.....the great grandmother provides childcare and continues to do so.....they are staying in the same town until at least the end of the school year, so they will be close to the grandparents house.....my thoughts are to get something fair put down in the order for visitation and depending on how these people want to treat him, let him decide on any extra time.....they have not been very nice so far, so we will see......he has no intention of ripping his kids out of their lives.....he just wants what is fair and time for him and the kids to get used to all the newness.....the grandparents have been holding the children since their mothers death, so i dont exactly see them as very trustworthy at this point.....he had to go to mediation to even get visitation with his kids (the mother had physical custody up to her death, but they had joint custody according to the divorce decree on October 28, 2009)....and the transition period to get these kids into his custody full time has begun.....im hoping that something can get hammered out and keep these kids' lives as normal as possible after all they have been though!
 

mandm2008

Junior Member
that is also my personal thoughts.....but keeping his kids in mind, they are young, just lost their mother, and are used to seeing these people regularly.....the great grandmother provides childcare and continues to do so.....they are staying in the same town until at least the end of the school year, so they will be close to the grandparents house.....my thoughts are to get something fair put down in the order for visitation and depending on how these people want to treat him, let him decide on any extra time.....they have not been very nice so far, so we will see......he has no intention of ripping his kids out of their lives.....he just wants what is fair and time for him and the kids to get used to all the newness.....the grandparents have been holding the children since their mothers death, so i dont exactly see them as very trustworthy at this point.....he had to go to mediation to even get visitation with his kids (the mother had physical custody up to her death, but they had joint custody according to the divorce decree on October 28, 2009)....and the transition period to get these kids into his custody full time has begun.....im hoping that something can get hammered out and keep these kids' lives as normal as possible after all they have been through!
 

Isis1

Senior Member
that is also my personal thoughts.....but keeping his kids in mind, they are young, just lost their mother, and are used to seeing these people regularly.....the great grandmother provides childcare and continues to do so.....they are staying in the same town until at least the end of the school year, so they will be close to the grandparents house.....my thoughts are to get something fair put down in the order for visitation and depending on how these people want to treat him, let him decide on any extra time.....they have not been very nice so far, so we will see......he has no intention of ripping his kids out of their lives.....he just wants what is fair and time for him and the kids to get used to all the newness.....the grandparents have been holding the children since their mothers death, so i dont exactly see them as very trustworthy at this point.....he had to go to mediation to even get visitation with his kids (the mother had physical custody up to her death, but they had joint custody according to the divorce decree on October 28, 2009)....and the transition period to get these kids into his custody full time has begun.....im hoping that something can get hammered out and keep these kids' lives as normal as possible after all they have been though!
who's pursuing an order for grandparent visitation?

exactly WHY has dad not picked up his children at this point?
 

mandm2008

Junior Member
he has tried....they live in a small town, in a different county.....their county sheriff and attorney will not enforce the divorce decree....(they are close friends of the family).....they just last week sat in mediation for 6 hours at which the grandparents demanded drug tests and some other ludacris things.....he has done all and the transition should be completed by the middle of december.....it is just a big mess.....all of the people who have not acted appropriatly have been reported to the people who govern them, per the iowa attorney general.....if i had enough time to type the whole story, you wouldnt believe the crap that has gone on in the last three weeks.....not one person who knows whats going on has said "oh that sounds about right"......the iowa state patrol said that it was a valid court order but that they would only enforce it with the help of that county....and that has gotten us nowhere.....and if you look at the other thread i posted, the county is picking and choosing what they want to enforce and it is all in their "friends" favor.....no law in that county.....i only hope this will be over soon and all these people get what is coming to them for thinking they are above the law!
 

mandm2008

Junior Member
sorry....the maternal grandparents are pursuing the order for visitation......even though the childrens father has repeatedly said he would never withhold the children from them.....it is just way messier than it needs to be!!
 

Isis1

Senior Member
sorry....the maternal grandparents are pursuing the order for visitation......even though the childrens father has repeatedly said he would never withhold the children from them.....it is just way messier than it needs to be!!
dad needs to stand firm on not allowing court ordered visitation. he can allow visitation without it. just never agree to be held to a court order.
 

mandm2008

Junior Member
i hope it just all ends soon.....i have never seen anyone so stressed out before.....first the death of his ex-wife, then not being able to be there for his kids....and all because these people believe that they know what is better for them......if you ask me, they DO NOT have those childrens best interests at heart......they are just trying to punish dad over the divorce!
 

LdiJ

Senior Member
i hope it just all ends soon.....i have never seen anyone so stressed out before.....first the death of his ex-wife, then not being able to be there for his kids....and all because these people believe that they know what is better for them......if you ask me, they DO NOT have those childrens best interests at heart......they are just trying to punish dad over the divorce!
No, they are not trying to punish dad over the divorce. They are unhealthily trying to hold onto the children of their deceased daughter and to whom they have become overly attached due to seeing them daily. Its actually a very classic situation. The downside is that the grandparents have the children in their physical care and no one is enforcing dad's rights.
 

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