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txmom512

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What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? anywhere

I came across this article - I know this isn't having to do w/ legal advice, but it is on topic - having to do w/ parents who move away...


Newsweek - Distant Parents

MY TURN (NEWSWEEK FEBRUARY 15, 1999)

MY LONG-DISTANCE LIFE
BY
NICK SHEFF

At the age of 5, I discovered what all children of divorce know: you're always missing somebody

I WAS BORN IN BERKELEY, WHERE I lived in a small house in the hills surrounded by firs and redwoods. My mom, my dad and me. As early as I can remember, there was arguing. When I was 4, my parents decided that they could no longer live together.

That same year, my mom moved to Los Angeles, and a therapist was hired to decide where I would live. My dad called her my worry doctor. Playing with a doll-house in her office, I showed her the mother's room on one side and the father's room on the other. When she asked me about the little boy's room, I told her he didn't know where he would sleep.

Though I was very young, I accepted my parents' separation and divorce and somehow knew it wasn't my fault. Yet I was intensely afraid. Not only was my mom more than 500 miles away, but she had a new husband. My dad had a new girlfriend, and my custody was unresolved. Everyone said I'd spend time with both parents, but I wanted to know where I would live.

The therapist finally decided I'd stay with my dad during the school year and visit my mom on long holidays and for the summers. I began flying between two cities and two different lives. I've probably earned enough miles for a round-trip ticket to Mars. Some people love to fly, but I dreaded the trips. For the first year, one of my parents would accompany me on the flights. At 6,1 started traveling on my own. I would pack my toys and clothes in a Hello Kitty backpack and say goodbye to my parent at the gate. The flight attendant would lead me onto the plane.

When I was 7, the woman sitting next to me on the plane tried to convert me to Christianity. A few years later I was on a flight with such bad turbulence that the luggage compartments opened and the man behind me threw up. When I was 12 and on my way to L.A. for Christmas, a lady refused to check her bag and shoved a flight attendant. We couldn't take off for two hours; the police came and dragged her off. to the cheering of other passengers. But flying was just part of what made long-distance joint custody so difficult.

I remember the last day of school in sixth grade. All my friends made plans to go to the beach together—all my friends, but not me. I couldn't join them because I had to fly to L.A. It wasn't that I didn't want to see my mom and stepdad. I just didn't want to leave my friends. As the school year came to a close, I began to shut down. I hated saying goodbye for the summer. It was easier to put up a wall, to pretend I didn't care. My dad drove to school with my packed bags. My friends went off together and I headed to the airport.

Arriving in L.A., I was excited to see my mom and stepdad. It had been almost three months since my last visit. But it took a while to adjust. Each set of parents had different rules, values and concerns. I am 16 now and I still travel back and forth, but it's mostly up to me to decide when. I've chosen to spend more time with my friends at the expense of visits with my mom. When I do go to L.A., it's like my stepdad put it: I have a cameo role in their lives. I say my lines and I'm off. It's painful.

What's the loll of this arrangement? I'm always missing somebody. When I'm in northern California, I miss my mom and stepdad. But when I'm in L.A., I miss hanging out with my friends, my other set of parents and little brother and sister. After all those back-and-forth flights, I've learned not to get too emotionally attached. I have to protect myself.

Many of my friends' parents are divorced. The ones whose mom and dad live near each other get to see both their parents more. These kids can go to school plays and dances on the weekends, and see their friends when they want. But others have custody arrangements like mine. One friend whose dad moved to New Hampshire sees him at Christmas and for one month during the summer. My girlfriend's dad lives in Alaska. They know what I know: it's not fair.

No child should be subjected to the hardship of long-distance joint custody. To prevent it, maybe there should be an addition to the marriage vows: Do you promise to have and to hold, for richer and for poorer, in sickness and in health, as long as you both shall live? And if you ever have children and wind up divorced, do you promise to stay within the same geographical area as your kids? Actually, since people often break those vows, maybe it should be a law: if you have children, you must stay near them. Or how about some common sense? If you move away from your children, you have to do the traveling to see them.

In two years I'll go to college. I'll be living away from both homes, which will present new problems, such as where I will spend holidays. Whatever happens, I'll continue to build my relationships with both my parents, my siblings and my friends. Before I have children of my own, I'll use my experiences to help make good decisions about whom I choose to marry. However, if I do get a divorce. I will put my children's needs first. I will stay near them no matter what happens.

SHEFF is a junior at Marin Academy High School in San Rafael, Calif.
 


GOOD POST!

my parents lived in separate states after thier divorce, at the time I didn't realize exactly what I was missing, but now it's all too clear. It turns my stomach when I see the parents on this site who think it's no big deal to move away from thier children, or move thier children away from the NCP. Thank you for sharing, maybe this should be added to the sticky.
 

kimberlywrites

Senior Member
I think this kid makes a pretty good point. The parents should travel to see the kids, not the other way around.
I would give this boy a hug if I could.:(
 

WittyUserName

Senior Member
I remember reading this and thought it was rather one-sided. Here's a kid whose sense of entitlement is rather shocking. His poor parents. There's a whole 'nother side of the story here, that of the parents, and to assume that they made these decisions out of narcissism is unrealistic at best.

I myself made all kinds of decisions that were really difficult as a single mom, particularly when my child was in treatment for serious illness. Was it ideal? No. But like a great many parents, I tried to cope the best I could with the resources I had. I'd love to have given my daughter a childhood filled with hearts and flowers instead of doctors and poverty, but the reality is that life is often hard and messy. And you can bet that she knows that even though we are not the standard 1950's nuclear family, she is loved by both parents.

I dunno. If I had a kid with this many blessings (a 30k per year private school, the means to get to see both parents....hell, I know folks who are married and living in separate states due to a job situation) I'd be reminding his that maybe he has less to bitch about than he thinks.
 
sense of entitlement? i don't see that at all. just because he goes to a private school doesn't make him spoiled. He wishes his mom didn't move away, what kid wouldn't feel the same way? I think my parents should have staid in the same state at least does that mean I have a sense of "entitlement"?
 

WittyUserName

Senior Member
Whose tagline is it that says "Who told you life was fair? Go kick that person in the shins." I think about that all the time, particularly when this kid comments that his situation isn't. I'm sure he misses his Mom; but is it her fault some jerk tried to convert him on the plane? And how many times do parents get told on these very forums that it's not a good idea to let kids decide when/if they want to see the NCP, something that apparently this kid thinks would have made his life much better?

I'm not attacking anyone. I simply disagree. I traveled to see both parents. And yes, there were different rules and standards at each home. In the same way that one's behavior is different at school and at home, or at the park vs. in the library. But it also made me independent, the kind of kid who saved up to study in another country for a year. I think those experiences can make you stronger. I hope they do that for him. I hope when he's no longer a junior in high school, he realizes that parenting isn't as easy as it may seem. I thought I could do better when I was a kid too. As an adult I know and iunderstand how hard it was, for both my parents. There's no one kind of perfect parent formula; for the most part folks just do the best they can.

Going to private school doesn't necessarily make him spoiled. But his expectation that everyone's life should continually revolve around him might.
 

Rushia

Senior Member
Whose tagline is it that says "Who told you life was fair? Go kick that person in the shins." I think about that all the time, particularly when this kid comments that his situation isn't. I'm sure he misses his Mom; but is it her fault some jerk tried to convert him on the plane? And how many times do parents get told on these very forums that it's not a good idea to let kids decide when/if they want to see the NCP, something that apparently this kid thinks would have made his life much better?

I'm not attacking anyone. I simply disagree. I traveled to see both parents. And yes, there were different rules and standards at each home. In the same way that one's behavior is different at school and at home, or at the park vs. in the library. But it also made me independent, the kind of kid who saved up to study in another country for a year. I think those experiences can make you stronger. I hope they do that for him. I hope when he's no longer a junior in high school, he realizes that parenting isn't as easy as it may seem. I thought I could do better when I was a kid too. As an adult I know and iunderstand how hard it was, for both my parents. There's no one kind of perfect parent formula; for the most part folks just do the best they can.

Going to private school doesn't necessarily make him spoiled. But his expectation that everyone's life should continually revolve around him might.
Might I cosign this?

It's the problem with most children these days. It's not that their spoiled, it's that society is soooo worried about the self esteem that we can't parent effectively anymore for fear that we may hurt their feelings. :rolleyes:
 
You are so right that life isn't "fair".... but i think fixating on that part of his post ignores the big picture... that there are a lot of parents that make decisions for their kids based on thier own desires, needs, wants, rather than on what is truely "best" for the kid. i don't think any child of divorce doesn't realize that life isn't fair.

we do not know the reasons his mom moved... she may very well have made the best decision for the child in her situation. I just see so many parents on this website that are so quick to move their child away from the other parent with the thought that the other parent isn't as important because they are the NCP. Phone calls and infrequent visitations can never replace day-to-day parenting.

and yes, many, many children these days are spoiled and entitled, and it is a problem - i've seen it in the workplace myself with the new kids out of college thinking the world owes them and they are the greatest thing since sliced bread.. i just didn't see anything in his essay that lead me to believe he is one of those kids.
 

Rushia

Senior Member
You are so right that life isn't "fair".... but i think fixating on that part of his post ignores the big picture... that there are a lot of parents that make decisions for their kids based on thier own desires, needs, wants, rather than on what is truely "best" for the kid. i don't think any child of divorce doesn't realize that life isn't fair.

we do not know the reasons his mom moved... she may very well have made the best decision for the child in her situation. I just see so many parents on this website that are so quick to move their child away from the other parent with the thought that the other parent isn't as important because they are the NCP. Phone calls and infrequent visitations can never replace day-to-day parenting.

and yes, many, many children these days are spoiled and entitled, and it is a problem - i've seen it in the workplace myself with the new kids out of college thinking the world owes them and they are the greatest thing since sliced bread.. i just didn't see anything in his essay that lead me to believe he is one of those kids.
Here's what I read (between the lines of course).

My parents divorced when I was young.

My dad made fun of my therapist.

OMG!! Some woman talked about religion with me and some guy got sick!

My friends got to go to the beach and I didn't. *insert crybaby sounds*

I can't bother to relate to my mother and stepdad cause I can't go to the beach with my friends. *insert crybaby sounds*

My parents lives should have to revolve around ME so that I can to as I please. *stomping feet*

Maybe he should think about his parents having to miss him too.
 

poppabear

Member
I think that it's a parents job to at least somewhat have their life revolve around their child. And I think that any parent who would leave their 4-year-old to pursue their new life 500 miles away is just plain selfish. Is reducing your own child's role in your life to a "cameo" as the writer states really the best his mom could have done?
Sorry, but I believe that this board is filled with parents who have never really stopped to think about what is truly best for their child regardless of what that parent wants or how they feel about the other parent. Sadly, I think that OP is an example of how many of these children will feel. And how is mom effectively parenting this child from 500 miles away? I may be the only one, but I think a child has a right to "hurt feelings" when their parent chooses to put their own happiness over being with the child on a regular basis.
 

Rushia

Senior Member
I think that it's a parents job to at least somewhat have their life revolve around their child. And I think that any parent who would leave their 4-year-old to pursue their new life 500 miles away is just plain selfish. Is reducing your own child's role in your life to a "cameo" as the writer states really the best his mom could have done?
Sorry, but I believe that this board is filled with parents who have never really stopped to think about what is truly best for their child regardless of what that parent wants or how they feel about the other parent. Sadly, I think that OP is an example of how many of these children will feel. And how is mom effectively parenting this child from 500 miles away? I may be the only one, but I think a child has a right to "hurt feelings" when their parent chooses to put their own happiness over being with the child on a regular basis.
Maybe this kid was more strung out on his drugs than it being a matter of being upset that he had to visit the other parent. Maybe it's a good thing that he couldn't go to the beach with his friends. Google the kid and find out for yourselves about this "poor child who needs a hug."
 

gr8rn

Senior Member
I am a little confused, Nick Sheff is a boy; and he has a hello kitty backpack?
Sorry I missed the point of the story because I was scratching my head...
 
That story hits very close to home. Only difference is my sons father moved to another state and took my son with him after exhaustive back/forth conversations with therapists/court appointed atty and everything else.

I feel bad for him at times when he doesn't want to visit because he will miss out on something with his friends but then I too miss him and didn't ask for this situation so I make him come for his visits and just try to make sure he sees all his old friends that were here before he moved as well as our family.

It's not easy on anyone involved but I hope that he will be a stronger man someday and make different choices in his own life that will be better for him and his family when he has one.
 

stealth2

Under the Radar Member
It's impossible to come up with a single solution that fits every situation. As nice as it would be, it's impossible. There are situations where distance is a positive. So much depends on the individuals involved - parents and children alike.

Personally, I don't think Nic Sheff is someone to be considered a poster child in favor of abolishing move-aways. Yes, an argument could likely be made that if his mother hadn't moved so far away, he'd never have ended up addicted to meth. But a lot of people end up addicted to a lot of different stuff with two parents living together in one home, too.

Yes, my kids deal with long-distance parenting. It has, for them, been more positive than not. I think. I won't/can't go into details. One has an excellent relationship with Dad, the other not so much. But... I think proximity would have ruined both irreparably.

Sometimes, parents have to do the best they can.
 

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