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JWilso8101

Junior Member
Let me throw this scenario out there.....lets say that SHE wants to take him out of state and on vacation for a week, does she need to ask for my permission since it would interfer with his and my visitation time? And what can happen if I say no, and she still does so? I want to work with her on this and we are both going to have do things or approve requests we do not necessarily agree with, but do so knowing what is best for the child.
 


You are talking about a 7 month old infant who will have no memory of this meeting with Gandad. HOW can you say this is the child's best interest? You comparison isn't realistic.

This is a meeting for grandad's benefit, NOT the child. I understand the WHY. But you need to get your priorities in order.
 

JWilso8101

Junior Member
7 months or 7 years, it is still his grandfather that he can at least say that he met. My grand mother died when I was 3 years old, and I might only have very litttle memories of her, but I still look at pictures of when I was his age and see her playing with me and what not. Those things are special in my family. I am sorry if you feel that knowing the father's side of the family does not isn't part of your feminist bitterness definition of the child's best interest, but I without a doubt would not hesistate to allow her to take him to even see one of his great grand parents on her side that could pass away soon. So back off if you want to say that I am not doing what is best for him, cause FAMILY is what is best for him.
 
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You have a graduated visitation schedule by court order. Mom has graciously allowed additional time above and beyond the order. And you in your righteousness are demanding even more!

You speak as though Mom is in the drivers seat…but reality is that the CO is the driving factor. Mom isn’t “holding a damn thing over you” besides the order of the court.

Your feelings of entitlement don’t matter a damn bit, and it’s time you get that through your head.

Bottom line is Mom is not required to give you extra time. She has done so, but is not required to. You want to keep getting that time, I suggest you play nice with Mom. The more you demand, the more you push the issue, the less inclined Mom’s going to be to offer you additional time, and you could risk being brought to court for trying to rush matters and actually get ordered to have supervised visitation because you let your selfish desires and self righteousness over-ride the best interests of the child.

Step lightly Dad. Before you lose more than you hope to gain.
 
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txmom512

Member
Wow.... It's only been SEVEN MONTHS.... If you are this demanding already, I'm afraid you and your baby's mother, and that poor child are all in for a very contentious 17.4 years... I truly feel sorry for that baby and that baby's mother**************.....
 

outhouse

Member
stop, quit arguing right now.

DO NOT take the kid anywhere! your not supposed to.

be lucky and thank the stars you have the overnights your not currently allowed.

you want to blow your chance at future 50/50 custody or any percetage for that matter????

stop with the BS your reaching here at your own exspence
 

CJane

Senior Member
Here's the deal. Regardless of whether or not YOU think this is in the child's best interests, you need to so a serious risk/benefit analysis.

RISKS:

You get arrested for interstate kidnapping
You're labeled a 'flight risk' and no longer allowed unsupervised contact with your child.
Mom ceases allowing ANY overnights until child is 3 as the order states.

BENEFITS:

Your son has pictures of his grandfather and himself together

Please note that in order to get the BENEFIT, you could very well ensure that PICTURES are all your son has of YOU as well.
 
Thank you "m ******" for reposting my responce to the OP.

I do understand the need to moderate. And again I appreciate your due dilligence.
 

LdiJ

Senior Member
Let me throw this scenario out there.....lets say that SHE wants to take him out of state and on vacation for a week, does she need to ask for my permission since it would interfer with his and my visitation time? And what can happen if I say no, and she still does so? I want to work with her on this and we are both going to have do things or approve requests we do not necessarily agree with, but do so knowing what is best for the child.
No, she probably wouldn't need your permission. She would need to demonstrate that she tried to work with you to make up the visitation (and since she is giving you extra time already, that's a cinch for her). She has primary custody of the child, its expected that she will be able to vacation with the child.

You have two hour visits. It is not expected, at this time, that you would be able to vacation with the child.

What you really need to understand here dad is your current legal position. Your rights are limited to what the court order gives you, or what mom agrees to give you over and above the court order. If the court order is not giving you what you feel is fair, then you need to take things back to court to try for a modification.

You cannot just unilaterally keep the child beyond what the court order says without mom's permission, and doing that, PLUS taking the child out of state would seriously get you into a world of hurt.
 

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