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[skyspirit]

The fact that this is a special needs child opens up another can of worms, why didn't you provide this information in the begining?

Sorry--I was trying to provide the basic facts first before putting this spin on it. I didn't want to sound confusing. There were circumstances behind his being diagnosed (In NC), and now the diagnosis is being challenged by doctors in Ohio, so while we all know the child is a little "slow", autism may not be the correct diagnosis. The parents have an appointment with a specialist here in Ohio, so I guess we'll see what he says.

The parents got in ALOT of trouble with the military for installing many different kinds of locks on the door (military housing). The little boy would get a chair and open every one of them. I inquired of the parents why he was left unsupervised to be able to do this, and they said he was getting up in the middle of the night and letting himself out. They know they have to accept responsibility for his actions, but were honestly trying to correct that problem.

The father was away in Iraq for several months, which is what led to the mother's depression. He returned to the States and had been working 12 hour shifts 6 and 7 days a week. I believe the mother probably has depression disorders, but she is being medicated for those now.

Thanks again!!!

 

[skyspirit]

When a child is endangered, then there are exceptions that go into effect. There is a process, a complex process envoked when jurisdicitonal issues are raised in child endangerment cases, remember you are not party to this confidential process and thus your preception is based on what your are informed after the fact. It is up to this family and their attorney's or advocate to comply with the process. Things are not always what they seem. Just be a friend and supportive of them as they continue on this journey, support that doesn't end when custody is restored.

You're right. And that is awesome advice. I have been there for all of them. They really are alot like family. The father of these children calls me "aunt..". I've helped them out alot already since they moved back to Ohio, and plan to be there for them in the future.

As a foster-mother myself of 2 boys who were placed in my home (due to abuse and neglect), I certainly understand that there are 2 sides of the coin.
I believe they have been honest with me about their recollection of the facts. I have tried looking at this situation from all angles.

One thing that baffles me is how the GAL in NC has never observed the parents with their children, yet can make recommendations based on crap.
There is a new GAL in Ohio, but since NC still claims juristiction--they haven't been real involved with this case yet.

Thanks again for the great advice --EVERYONE who is responding!

 

[LdiJ]

Sorry--I was trying to provide the basic facts first before putting this spin on it. I didn't want to sound confusing. There were circumstances behind his being diagnosed (In NC), and now the diagnosis is being challenged by doctors in Ohio, so while we all know the child is a little "slow", autism may not be the correct diagnosis. The parents have an appointment with a specialist here in Ohio, so I guess we'll see what he says.

The parents got in ALOT of trouble with the military for installing many different kinds of locks on the door (military housing). The little boy would get a chair and open every one of them. I inquired of the parents why he was left unsupervised to be able to do this, and they said he was getting up in the middle of the night and letting himself out. They know they have to accept responsibility for his actions, but were honestly trying to correct that problem.

The father was away in Iraq for several months, which is what led to the mother's depression. He returned to the States and had been working 12 hour shifts 6 and 7 days a week. I believe the mother probably has depression disorders, but she is being medicated for those now.

Thanks again!!!

This is not the first child I have heard of that is/was an escape artist. Its also not the first time that I have heard of a situation where CPS yanked a child that was an escape artist.

I think that the parents and grandparents need to be patient. NC is going to have to release jurisdiction eventually, because quite frankly, NC can't enforce any orders when all of the parties are in OH and OH isn't agreeing with NC. At this point NC would need Ohio's cooperation to even be able to take physical possession of the children again.

Everybody should wait until the children have been there six months, and then try to force the issue.

 

[rmet4nzkx]

A GAL can represent the child without watching the child interact with the parents.

Don't worry about the finite detials of the Diagnosis of an Autism Spectrum Disorder, it will become more defined with time, this includes several disorders requiring very different intervention and treatment it is a long process an expensive process for the state with mandated responsibilities. Don't worry, NC will relinquish jurisdiction in due time when OHIO is ready to step up to the plate and take it and provide the services for the child and their family. It is very important for the child's future to have access to services and not be denied in order to fight a jurisdictional dispute they seek a lessor diagnosis. Families frequently claim, there is nothing wrong with my child, they are not developmentally disabled so the child is not qualified for services and suffers all through school and after age 18 have to fight to get services or the stigma of their dysfunctional behaviors.

Depending on the disorder, the family systems may be very closed and not entirely cabable of discerning what is happening (environment), also ASD's are frequently inheirited, so it is possible that one or both parent although intelligent ot high functioning, also have a form of this disorder thus the difficulity in managing and supervising the child, in such cases involvement by all grandparents and extended family in assessment, interventions and treatment is essential so as to form a support network and a structured environment for the child.

This family should cooporate with the state department of developmental disabilities.

If dad got less than an honorable discharge or recieved an EC-4, this should be appealed.