Rights when dealing with a fire department

[OHRoadwarrior]

A Master Electrician would not have left the job half done with the power on if he was competent. He would have shut off the power and tagged it until he was sure it was fixed. I'm leaving now, call the fire dept. if the place catches on fire is not a professional job.

 

[Zigner]

There was a short circuit that came as the result of the third floor tenant overloading a circuit with an electric space heater. 90% of the damage was done by the fire department. But thanks for reaffirming your superiority by mocking people that lost their homes. Are there any actual lawyers here?

EDIT: It's now a moot point as state fire marshals cleared the building and told the fire department to release it. No doubt because they're evil that want people to die in "deathtrap slums".

Wait, You said before that the short was caused by rats eating through the wiring...

And, it sounds to me like the local FD wanted the state fire marshals to sign off on the property before allowing others to enter it.

I'm glad the system worked exactly as it should, and I hope your mom fixes up her property so that it's not a deathtrap.

 

[justalayman]

You need to ask your father why your statement about the overloading of the circuit is wrong. If he doesn't know, then he is not a master electrician.

The ocpd (ask your father) prevents an overloaded circuit from starting a fire. Of course that is if the circuit is properly contsructed and everything is working properly.

 

[OHRoadwarrior]

Shhh, the fact that there are dangerous wiring problems is irrelevant, they just want the place open.

 

[justalayman]

Shhh, the fact that there are dangerous wiring problems is irrelevant, they just want the place open.

I know. I just wanted the op to know I prefer my legs remain equal length.

 

[cehart]

Wait, You said before that the short was caused by rats eating through the wiring...

You may want to read posts before taking out your ire for landlords. A squirrel got into the building's attic and chewed through the wiring. The "incompetent" master electrician shut off all the unnecessary circuits. But this being the dead of bloody winter, left on circuits that weren't running through the attic and had one of his men start the process of testing the all the circuits in the unit. That's when the second short occurred, so the electrician there called the fire department, as he was instructed to if anything else happened. My father, in the midst of an asthma exacerbation brought on by the insulation, was seeking medical treatment.

And, it sounds to me like the local FD wanted the state fire marshals to sign off on the property before allowing others to enter it.

Nope. My brother was there. The state fire marshal had to demand a walkthrough because the local fire authorities were only interested in getting my father's license pulled due to existing animus between the fire inspector and himself. It goes back to the inspector's last job, for another city, from which he was fired from for creating a hostile work environment, incompetence, and overt hostility to the residents of the city that paid his salary.

Oh, and as I learned from the Red Cross today, they called the fire department the night of the incident and requested permission to send in a crew to help the building residents with necessities like short term housing, etc. and he told them not to bother because the residents would be going back into the building that night. And then promptly locked them out. Regardless of his hatred of my father, doing that to the six tenants was unconscionable.

I'm glad the system worked exactly as it should, and I hope your mom fixes up her property so that it's not a deathtrap.

The building and electrical inspectors would tell you that you're full of horsepuckey as she spends a fortune on the building every year in adding things to the property (last summer's projects were new porches and exterior stairways). There's really not much you can do when a squirrel gets into the attic because until there's a short circuit most people don't know it's there.

 

[Zigner]

Squirrel, rat, both are rodents so it really doesn't matter now, does it?

And, your father, as pointed out above, failed to shut off the power when he KNEW there were issues.

There are none so blind...

 

[cehart]

The ocpd (ask your father) prevents an overloaded circuit from starting a fire. Of course that is if the circuit is properly contsructed and everything is working properly.

Actually it wouldn't in this case where a squirrel had chewed through the casing of the wire, but thanks for playing.

 

[Zigner]

Actually it wouldn't in this case where a squirrel had chewed through the casing of the wire, but thanks for playing.

Too bad your mom didn't properly seal the house up to prevent vermin from entering...

 

[cehart]

Squirrel, rat, both are rodents so it really doesn't matter now, does it?

And, your father, as pointed out above, failed to shut off the power when he KNEW there were issues.

There are none so blind...

What part of "There was an electrician there testing the wiring" are you failing to comprehend? Do you not read at all? Actually, as far as I can tell, none of the respondents to this thread read and none of them are lawyers. Are there any actual lawyers that post here? Or just a bunch of angry millennials that think their landlords are taking advantage of them? Because if this ever comes up again I actually would like to know the answer to my question.

 

[Zigner]

What part of "There was an electrician there testing the wiring" are you failing to comprehend? Do you not read at all? Actually, as far as I can tell, none of the respondents to this thread read and none of them are lawyers. Are there any actual lawyers that post here? Or just a bunch of angry millennials that think their landlords are taking advantage of them? Because if this ever comes up again I actually would like to know the answer to my question.

And you accuse ME of not reading?

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[cehart]

Too bad your mom didn't properly seal the house up to prevent vermin from entering...

The attic actually was sealed in July after the previous third floor tenant was placed in a nursing home. At that time my mother went through the entire unit replacing the lighting, electrical devices, and appliances. The electrical inspector went through the unit, including the attic, and everything was fine at the time. If you had ever actually owned a house, you would understand the problems presented by things like bees, hornets, ants, squirrels, etc..

 

[Zigner]

The attic actually was sealed in July after the previous third floor tenant was placed in a nursing home.

Yet, here you are. Interesting.

 

[cehart]

And you accuse ME of not reading?

Yes, because you don't. And, yes, I read the standard disclaimer. But I keep getting back to, I still have a legal question, and it would still be helpful to know the answer to it. So, are there any lawyers that post here or just a bunch of angry millennials? Because if it's the latter you're no help at all. I understand that mocking homeless women makes you feel better about yourself, but that's your problem and not mine. My problem is trying to help five women whose lives have been disrupted get back on their feet because the government employee whose boots you're so eager to lick actually prevented them from getting professional help out of spite.

 

[Zigner]

Yes, because you don't. And, yes, I read the standard disclaimer. But I keep getting back to, I still have a legal question, and it would still be helpful to know the answer to it. So, are there any lawyers that post here or just a bunch of angry millennials? Because if it's the latter you're no help at all. I understand that mocking homeless women makes you feel better about yourself, but that's your problem and not mine. My problem is trying to help five women whose lives have been disrupted get back on their feet because the government employee whose boots you're so eager to lick actually prevented them from getting professional help out of spite.

YOU don't have a legal question, but we've been humoring you nonetheless. I'm out.