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justalayman

Senior Member
What is the name of yoWhat is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? ohio


No if you let the neighbors dog out of their fenced in area and the dog is hit by a car and dies you are not looking at a class 3 felony. and up to 40k out of pocket. unless you can link to such a law.
And I have shown you more than once that " but the offender has actual knowledge that the dog is an assistance dog" That requires a sign! That is the ENTIRE reason for the thread! GOOD NIGHT
No, you have not shown me even once where you must notify a person anything about the law. The only thing you keep yammering about is giving notice and the only thing that is of concern is whether the offender is aware or should have been aware it is a service animal. The: this is a service animal; fulfills that.






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3) Whoever violates division (C) of this section is guilty of assaulting an assistance dog. Except as otherwise provided in this division, assaulting an assistance dog is a misdemeanor of the second degree. If the violation results in the death of the assistance dog, assaulting an assistance dog is a felony of the third degree. If the violation results in serious physical harm to the assistance dog other than its death, assaulting an assistance dog is a felony of the fourth degree. If the violation results in physical harm to the assistance dog other than death or serious physical harm, assaulting an assistance dog is a misdemeanor of the first degree.
If you will read it, section C involves acts to cause intentional harm or intentionally to cause the death of the animal.

The following involves all the other violations

(4) Whoever violates division (D) of this section is guilty of harassing an assistance dog. Except as otherwise provided in this division, harassing an assistance dog is a misdemeanor of the second degree. If the violation results in the death of the assistance dog, harassing an assistance dog is a felony of the third degree. If the violation results in serious physical harm to the assistance dog, but does not result in its death, harassing an assistance dog is a felony of the fourth degree. If the violation results in physical harm to the assistance dog, but does not result in its death or in serious physical harm to it, harassing an assistance dog is a misdemeanor of the first degree.
and that is what I said: a sign that informs people it is a service dog satisfies the law. There is no requirement, at least in the law cited, that requires you to inform anybody of the myriad charges and penalties involved with harassing, injuring, or otherwise bothering the dog.


If your claim was correct, every speed limit sign would have to include the penalties for a violation.


btw: even the actions you just described do not necessarily equate to a criminal act. As I told you, the action must be knowingly and intentional to cause harm to the dog. If the action is only reckless, then it falls to section (4) for the level of crime. If the actions are merely negligent, then none of the charges apply.



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"Recklessness" – A finding of recklessness requires proof that the defendant disregarded a substantial and unjustifiable risk of which he was aware.
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"Negligence" – Criminal negligence (as opposed to civil negligence) ordinarily requires a showing of a gross deviation from the standard of reasonable care. A person is criminally negligent if he takes a substantial, unjustifiable risk of causing the social harm that constitutes the offense charged.

Three factors come into play when determining whether a reasonable person would have acted as the defendant did:

1.) the gravity of harm that foreseeably would result from the defendant’s conduct;
2.) the probability of such harm occurring; and
3.) the burden to the defendant of desisting from the risky conduct.
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Silverplum

Senior Member
I still don't understand what is the Big Deal for scubadad. :confused:

I don't want "pranksters" letting my adorable (but useless other than amusement and fuzzy love) dogs out of our yard, either. So I lock the gates with combination-lock padlocks.

Locked gate/s = safe dog/s. End of story.

Or, if it's the posting of the law he wants, scubadad can go nuts, make a comprehensive sign in four (bolded) fonts and five colors if he wishes. I still don't see why this is a matter for freaking out.
 

scuba dad

Member
I still don't understand what is the Big Deal for scubadad. :confused:

I don't want "pranksters" letting my adorable (but useless other than amusement and fuzzy love) dogs out of our yard, either. So I lock the gates with combination-lock padlocks.

Locked gate/s = safe dog/s. End of story.

Or, if it's the posting of the law he wants, scubadad can go nuts, make a comprehensive sign in four (bolded) fonts and five colors if he wishes. I still don't see why this is a matter for freaking out.
WOW do you hate all disabled people? Three years of training makes her a Service Dog not a pet. You are what is wrong with this world!
 

scuba dad

Member
We worked up the sign today. It will be the size of a licence plate. Top line NOTICE. 2nd Service dog area of control 3rd line subject to ORC 2921.321 that is it. You can not understand the bond between a Service Dog and her handler. She has been within 6 feet of me 24/7 fo the last 4 years. constantly working on new skills. Now that I have been diagnosed Diabetic we are working with a specialist on this are of training a service dog. She is picking it up fast. But next week Me Aurora my son and daughter and her boyfriend are going to Kalahari Water Park for a much need vacation. I called ahead, and they have already been so awesome. No one is allowed to enter the room for any reason, and she has full access to every part of the resort, except the actual water. She is not a fan of the water anyway. But I came here for advice and a few people have given great advice. As normal there are more jackasses than helpful people on here, but I have come to expect that.
 

quincy

Senior Member
. . . . But I came here for advice and a few people have given great advice. As normal there are more jackasses than helpful people on here, but I have come to expect that.
I have read both of the threads that deal with your concerns, scuba dad.

As normal, there are a few jackass posters who come to this forum with questions and then expect the legal volunteers here to put up with verbal abuse. But most of us have come to expect that.

The visitors who are not jackasses actually THANK the volunteers for their advice and direction.
 

bdancer

Member
WOW do you hate all disabled people? Three years of training makes her a Service Dog not a pet. You are what is wrong with this world!
WOW!! That's some chip you have on your shoulder!!!! Your response is way out of line. The poster said nothing that deserved this.
 

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