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justalayman

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When the feds pass into the borders of a state, they are held under the jurisdiction of that state. When the state(local) police assist the feds with ithese actions they are also acting illegally, they are held to state/local law.

How does the fed do illegal things and get away with it? Are you really claiming that the fed never gets away with illegal actions?
When you started this thread, you sounded half way smart. What happened?
 

Ladyback1

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When the feds pass into the borders of a state, they are held under the jurisdiction of that state. When the state(local) police assist the feds with ithese actions they are also acting illegally, they are held to state/local law.

How does the fed do illegal things and get away with it? Are you really claiming that the fed never gets away with illegal actions?

Here's how it was explained to me from a local/city cop:
County can override city because the city is IN the county.
State can override county because the county is IN the state.
Federal can override state because state is in the USA.

Get it? Got it? Good....
 
Here's how it was explained to me from a local/city cop:
County can override city because the city is IN the county.
State can override county because the county is IN the state.
Federal can override state because state is in the USA.

Get it? Got it? Good....
Right, i kinda agree with that. I think the issue is, when state(local) cops come in and get involved in the raid, State law makes these shops 100% legal, if the local police get involved, that would then be an illegal raid....I'm going to conceed here, if it is ONLY fed's doing the raid that is a grey area, technically, it is against federal law, but the raids are not legal according to state law, so IMO, the local police should(they won't because of ignorance) be able to step in and arrest the fed's on any number of charges.
 

Proserpina

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Right, i kinda agree with that. I think the issue is, when state(local) cops come in and get involved in the raid, State law makes these shops 100% legal, if the local police get involved, that would then be an illegal raid....I'm going to conceed here, if it is ONLY fed's doing the raid that is a grey area, technically, it is against federal law, but the raids are not legal according to state law, so IMO, the local police should(they won't because of ignorance) be able to step in and arrest the fed's on any number of charges.

Honey, your bridge has a few billy goats about to walk over it...you best get back there and sort it out.

:cool:
 

CdwJava

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When the feds pass into the borders of a state, they are held under the jurisdiction of that state.
To some degree. But! They still have the authority to enforce federal law! Being an illegal immigrant is not a crime in CA. In fact, CA law enforcement cannot detain for this. But, NOTHING prevents FEDERAL law enforcement from making detentions and arrests for this violation of FEDERAL law.

Why do you think the feds cannot enforce federal law? What rock have you been living under?

When the state(local) police assist the feds with ithese actions they are also acting illegally, they are held to state/local law.
There are federal laws that allow locals to assist in certain things, but this depends on the state and the legislation within those states. In some states, local agencies have been granted authority to assist in the enforcement of strictly federal law (such as immigration) by both federal and state law. Not every state allows this, but many do.

How does the fed do illegal things and get away with it? Are you really claiming that the fed never gets away with illegal actions?
Never said that. But your belief that the feds cannot enforce violations of federal law is naive and simply wrong.
 

CdwJava

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Right, i kinda agree with that. I think the issue is, when state(local) cops come in and get involved in the raid, State law makes these shops 100% legal, if the local police get involved, that would then be an illegal raid....I'm going to conceed here, if it is ONLY fed's doing the raid that is a grey area, technically, it is against federal law, but the raids are not legal according to state law, so IMO, the local police should(they won't because of ignorance) be able to step in and arrest the fed's on any number of charges.
No, no, no! The locals are NOT going to arrest the feds for enforcing federal law!!!

Even in CA where marijuana is quasi-legal, local agencies have been involved with assisting the feds on their raids of dealers ... er, I mean, licensed medicinal marijuana dispensaries. Why? because they are not generally involved in the raid (unless state law has also been broken), but are often relegated to perimeter control and support, and maybe prisoner custody/transport. However, since some local politicians in dispensary jurisdictions have seen fit to dime off these raids (and, thus, endanger all the officers involved), the feds have increasingly kept local law enforcement out of the loop resulting in a few pretty hairy moments when 9-1-1 calls come in to local agencies of heavily armed men busting into dispensaries.

No, the locals are not arresting the feds for enforcing federal law as the feds are acting within the scope of their authority and under the law.

But, back to your issue, none of this fanciful thinking will help you if you go back to work and they drug test you and find that you test positive for THC. if that is grounds for a dismissal at your place of employment, then you will be dismissed. Ultimately, it is YOUR choice whether you toke up or not. You know the potential consequences, and you have a choice as to whether or not the risk is worth the reward. If getting high is worth the risk of losing your job, go for it! Get messed up and get high! It certainly says a lot about you and your potential future if getting high is worth more than a career, but, it's your call.
 

cbg

I'm a Northern Girl
And I just want to reiterate what the poster does not seem to fully understand (and yes, I have read the laws themselves):

EVEN IN THE STATES WHERE YOU CANNOT BE DISCRIMINATED AGAINST BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT YOU USE MEDICAL MARIJUANA you can still be fired if you test positive at work, are under the influence at work, or use at work.
 
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