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Fairy4

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What is the name of your state? VA

My ex and I have an appeal scheduled for Jan. 11th (he wants physical custody).

We have spoken at the children's school, in detail about everything from the court's decision, the kids school, the children in general, etc., and this is what he was telling me:

- "I have no problem with you having custody of the kids, but I appealed it because my attorney was crap!"

- "If the GAL saw anything wrong he would of taken the kids from you"

So why the appeal? That question remains to be unanswered...my thought is he wants his child support lowered.

Anyway, in the past few weeks he has requested to keep the kids through Monday morning instead of bringing them home on Sunday evenings. I let him do it one time, but told him I thought it would be in the best interest for the kids if we just followed the court order until the appeal was over with (as suggested from many here).

The one time he did keep them til Monday, his wife took the kids to school. Ex came by after work that afternoon to return the kids clothing, etc from the weekend. I gave him the lunchboxes that the kids had used for that day (they were his).

Evidently he got home and realized that the envelopes that his wife had given the kids that morning with breakfast money in them hadn't been opened. He called wanting to know why the kids didn't eat breakfast that morning.

After a long conversation with him grilling the kids on "why" he hung up. Our oldest (she's just turned 9) told me afterwards that they didn't get to school in time to eat breakfast. That as soon as they put their stuff down in the cafeteria they were dismissed to their teachers.

I told my ex this when he came to pick up the kids for his Wed. overnight visitation. The next morning, when step-monster" was getting the kids ready for school (ex has to be at work by 6:30 or 7 a.m.) she evidently was screaming at the kids not to lie about why they didn't eat breakfast again, that she would find out, etc.

The kids came home from school that day telling me all of this. In the end it finally comes out that this is the whole reason that our oldest cries that she doesn't want to go to Daddy's on Wed. because the step mother always yells at her, screams at the kids, etc. and that this happens every Thurs. morning when their Dad is gone, but she's nice to them when he's around.

I told ex that this is why A***** hasn't wanted to go, etc. He calls me saying that he asked his wife and she says she doesn't yell, that the kids were on time, etc. Basically saying daughter is lying.

His solution is for me, him, my husband & his wife to sit down and talk about this, and let his wife defend herself against our 9 year old, and that we all could decide what to do with "all the lies the children have been telling". I objected, because:

- I didn't want to put myself in a situation where something I say is more than likely going to be used against me in the appeal.

- A child shouldn't be put up against an adult to defend herself

- I feel that no one should make decisions about our children but us!

He thinks I'm being irrational, etc. Was I wrong for not wanting to sit down and talk with him and his wife? I'm not trying to difficult, but honestly I don't know if I could of watched my mouth after all of the things that the kids say about her! I realize children will sometimes make up things, but our 9 year old cries at least two days before having to go with her Dad on Wed., but yet when she goes for the weekend, and she knows he'll be around, she's fine.

Should I bring this up at the appeal? I'm not trying to take his mid-week visits away from him, but even the kids teachers say the kids are tired all day Thursday, my 1st grader is making D's on his spelling tests (which he has on Thursdays - he gets the words on Tuesdays). The mid-week visits have been a nightmare from the get-go!

Any suggestions on how to handle this in court without looking like a total B****?
 


xKellyx

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Fairy4 said:
What is the name of your state? VA

My ex and I have an appeal scheduled for Jan. 11th (he wants physical custody).

We have spoken at the children's school, in detail about everything from the court's decision, the kids school, the children in general, etc., and this is what he was telling me:

- "I have no problem with you having custody of the kids, but I appealed it because my attorney was crap!"

- "If the GAL saw anything wrong he would of taken the kids from you"

So why the appeal? That question remains to be unanswered...my thought is he wants his child support lowered.

Anyway, in the past few weeks he has requested to keep the kids through Monday morning instead of bringing them home on Sunday evenings. I let him do it one time, but told him I thought it would be in the best interest for the kids if we just followed the court order until the appeal was over with (as suggested from many here).

The one time he did keep them til Monday, his wife took the kids to school. Ex came by after work that afternoon to return the kids clothing, etc from the weekend. I gave him the lunchboxes that the kids had used for that day (they were his).

Evidently he got home and realized that the envelopes that his wife had given the kids that morning with breakfast money in them hadn't been opened. He called wanting to know why the kids didn't eat breakfast that morning.

After a long conversation with him grilling the kids on "why" he hung up. Our oldest (she's just turned 9) told me afterwards that they didn't get to school in time to eat breakfast. That as soon as they put their stuff down in the cafeteria they were dismissed to their teachers.

I told my ex this when he came to pick up the kids for his Wed. overnight visitation. The next morning, when step-monster" was getting the kids ready for school (ex has to be at work by 6:30 or 7 a.m.) she evidently was screaming at the kids not to lie about why they didn't eat breakfast again, that she would find out, etc.

The kids came home from school that day telling me all of this. In the end it finally comes out that this is the whole reason that our oldest cries that she doesn't want to go to Daddy's on Wed. because the step mother always yells at her, screams at the kids, etc. and that this happens every Thurs. morning when their Dad is gone, but she's nice to them when he's around.

I told ex that this is why A***** hasn't wanted to go, etc. He calls me saying that he asked his wife and she says she doesn't yell, that the kids were on time, etc. Basically saying daughter is lying.

His solution is for me, him, my husband & his wife to sit down and talk about this, and let his wife defend herself against our 9 year old, and that we all could decide what to do with "all the lies the children have been telling". I objected, because:

- I didn't want to put myself in a situation where something I say is more than likely going to be used against me in the appeal.

- A child shouldn't be put up against an adult to defend herself

- I feel that no one should make decisions about our children but us!

He thinks I'm being irrational, etc. Was I wrong for not wanting to sit down and talk with him and his wife? I'm not trying to difficult, but honestly I don't know if I could of watched my mouth after all of the things that the kids say about her! I realize children will sometimes make up things, but our 9 year old cries at least two days before having to go with her Dad on Wed., but yet when she goes for the weekend, and she knows he'll be around, she's fine.

Should I bring this up at the appeal? I'm not trying to take his mid-week visits away from him, but even the kids teachers say the kids are tired all day Thursday, my 1st grader is making D's on his spelling tests (which he has on Thursdays - he gets the words on Tuesdays). The mid-week visits have been a nightmare from the get-go!

Any suggestions on how to handle this in court without looking like a total B****?

Well if daddy isn't the one spending time with them on these wednesday visits, then it shouldn't be a problem to remove them. But you have to prove that.

Also, get the teachers and schoolwork for the court date. The teachers can testify to any difference they see on an average day vs a day after going to daddies.
 

xKellyx

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Fairy4 said:
Anyway, in the past few weeks he has requested to keep the kids through Monday morning instead of bringing them home on Sunday evenings. I let him do it one time, but told him I thought it would be in the best interest for the kids if we just followed the court order until the appeal was over with (as suggested from many here).

The one time he did keep them til Monday, his wife took the kids to school. Ex came by after work that afternoon to return the kids clothing, etc from the weekend. I gave him the lunchboxes that the kids had used for that day (they were his).

Keep strictly to the CO! After the descions are made, you may let him have longer or more visitation where you both can agree.



Evidently he got home and realized that the envelopes that his wife had given the kids that morning with breakfast money in them hadn't been opened. He called wanting to know why the kids didn't eat breakfast that morning.

After a long conversation with him grilling the kids on "why" he hung up. Our oldest (she's just turned 9) told me afterwards that they didn't get to school in time to eat breakfast. That as soon as they put their stuff down in the cafeteria they were dismissed to their teachers.

I told my ex this when he came to pick up the kids for his Wed. overnight visitation. The next morning, when step-monster" was getting the kids ready for school (ex has to be at work by 6:30 or 7 a.m.) she evidently was screaming at the kids not to lie about why they didn't eat breakfast again, that she would find out, etc.

The kids came home from school that day telling me all of this. In the end it finally comes out that this is the whole reason that our oldest cries that she doesn't want to go to Daddy's on Wed. because the step mother always yells at her, screams at the kids, etc. and that this happens every Thurs. morning when their Dad is gone, but she's nice to them when he's around.

I told ex that this is why A***** hasn't wanted to go, etc. He calls me saying that he asked his wife and she says she doesn't yell, that the kids were on time, etc. Basically saying daughter is lying.
I don't think she is lying because neither her or her sibling(s) spent the money given to the for breakfast, you should document this. Them not being able to get breakfast in the morning before school is a BIG DEAL.

His solution is for me, him, my husband & his wife to sit down and talk about this, and let his wife defend herself against our 9 year old, and that we all could decide what to do with "all the lies the children have been telling". I objected, because:

- I didn't want to put myself in a situation where something I say is more than likely going to be used against me in the appeal.

- A child shouldn't be put up against an adult to defend herself

- I feel that no one should make decisions about our children but us!

He thinks I'm being irrational, etc. Was I wrong for not wanting to sit down and talk with him and his wife? I'm not trying to difficult, but honestly I don't know if I could of watched my mouth after all of the things that the kids say about her! I realize children will sometimes make up things, but our 9 year old cries at least two days before having to go with her Dad on Wed., but yet when she goes for the weekend, and she knows he'll be around, she's fine.

Should I bring this up at the appeal? I'm not trying to take his mid-week visits away from him, but even the kids teachers say the kids are tired all day Thursday, my 1st grader is making D's on his spelling tests (which he has on Thursdays - he gets the words on Tuesdays). The mid-week visits have been a nightmare from the get-go!

Any suggestions on how to handle this in court without looking like a total B****?

Do not sit down with them and talk about anything until after court is over. Even then if you do talk, it should be between you and him only.
Wife won't like this and probably won't allow it to happen. OH WELL.


Definetly bring it up in court.
 

Fairy4

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I know, I should stickto the court order, I only have let him that one time. My 1st grader's teacher told me that Monday afternoon when I went to pick up the kids that "it was evident that E**** didn't read over the weekend!" I explained the situation to her, and apologized, etc. I have sent a letter to my ex stating that "we should stick to the court order until after the appeal."

I don't think she's lying, not only because of the other kids still having the money, but because it's never been an issue before, or after that one time. I understand if they were running late that morning, it happens to all of us, but then she should of fed the kids at home.

I suggested that the conversation just be between him and I, but of course that's not going to happen. The response I got from him was "well then you talk to the kids on your time, and we'll talk to the kids the next time we get them." There lies the problem! My ex believes that his wife should have the chance to defend herself to me, and honestly I could give a crap about what she says. I darn sure believe my 9 year old over her, and since neither my ex or myself were there then what do you do? My ex says his wife has no reason to lie...when infact she has every reason to lie!

Their father picks them up at 5 on Wednesdays, but doesn't see them after they go to bed, or in the morning. I tried to offer him to drop off the kids to me on Thursday mornings so I could take the kids to school (since he doesn't see them anyway) but he wouldn't go for that (not that I expected him to). He has to drive by my house to get to work.

I talked to the teachers and they don't want to get involved in this. My attorney said it was better to go without them then to force them to testify with a subpeona.

I just hate having to make the oldest go when it's obvious she catches "hell" every Thursday morning! I don't have a choice though...for now!
 

brisgirl825

Senior Member
What is his basis for appeal?

The GAL carries a lot of wieght with the judge so I wouldn't worry about an appeal.

Don't talk to mom and let her shoot herself in the foot. The kids know who she is. Let dad deal with it. He chose her. :rolleyes:
 

Fairy4

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brisgirl825 said:
What is his basis for appeal?

The GAL carries a lot of wieght with the judge so I wouldn't worry about an appeal.

Don't talk to mom and let her shoot herself in the foot. The kids know who she is. Let dad deal with it. He chose her. :rolleyes:
Not sure what his basis is. All I know is his old attorney filed it before the judge even handed down his decision in Sept. Not sure how that was, but regardless that's how it happened.

The GAL reccommended that the children NOT be moved, etc. he said my house was immaculate, etc. The only thing I can think of is he doesn't like paying $1100 a month, because he can't keep up his lifestyle...

Don't you mean "step-momster"...I better be the only Mom they have! :cool:
 

brisgirl825

Senior Member
Fairy4 said:
Not sure what his basis is. All I know is his old attorney filed it before the judge even handed down his decision in Sept. Not sure how that was, but regardless that's how it happened.

The GAL reccommended that the children NOT be moved, etc. he said my house was immaculate, etc. The only thing I can think of is he doesn't like paying $1100 a month, because he can't keep up his lifestyle...

Don't you mean "step-momster"...I better be the only Mom they have! :cool:

My bad.. :eek: I meant SM. Sorry chica. I know you hated to read that.
 
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betterthanher

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xKellyx said:
Also, get the teachers and schoolwork for the court date. The teachers can testify to any difference they see on an average day vs a day after going to daddies.
This is flat-out incorrect. Teachers will NOT get involved in this type of stuff. You even wanna REMOTELY try, you'll have to (most likely) go through the Board of Education and probably the teachers' union. You'll be lucky to even get a statement from the teacher -- again -- without going through the channels I mentioned.
 
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betterthanher

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Fairy4 said:
What is the name of your state? VA

My ex and I have an appeal scheduled for Jan. 11th (he wants physical custody).

We have spoken at the children's school, in detail about everything from the court's decision, the kids school, the children in general, etc., and this is what he was telling me:

- "I have no problem with you having custody of the kids, but I appealed it because my attorney was crap!"
He can't appeal the decision because he didn't like it. There has to be an error in the Finding of Fact/Conclusion of Law.

- "If the GAL saw anything wrong he would of taken the kids from you"
Empty threat.

So why the appeal? That question remains to be unanswered...my thought is he wants his child support lowered.
Happens all the time.

Anyway, in the past few weeks he has requested to keep the kids through Monday morning instead of bringing them home on Sunday evenings. I let him do it one time, but told him I thought it would be in the best interest for the kids if we just followed the court order until the appeal was over with (as suggested from many here).
How is not spending more time with their father NOT in the child's best interest??? :rolleyes:

The one time he did keep them til Monday, his wife took the kids to school. Ex came by after work that afternoon to return the kids clothing, etc from the weekend. I gave him the lunchboxes that the kids had used for that day (they were his).

Evidently he got home and realized that the envelopes that his wife had given the kids that morning with breakfast money in them hadn't been opened. He called wanting to know why the kids didn't eat breakfast that morning.

After a long conversation with him grilling the kids on "why" he hung up. Our oldest (she's just turned 9) told me afterwards that they didn't get to school in time to eat breakfast. That as soon as they put their stuff down in the cafeteria they were dismissed to their teachers.

I told my ex this when he came to pick up the kids for his Wed. overnight visitation. The next morning, when step-monster" was getting the kids ready for school (ex has to be at work by 6:30 or 7 a.m.) she evidently was screaming at the kids not to lie about why they didn't eat breakfast again, that she would find out, etc.

The kids came home from school that day telling me all of this. In the end it finally comes out that this is the whole reason that our oldest cries that she doesn't want to go to Daddy's on Wed. because the step mother always yells at her, screams at the kids, etc. and that this happens every Thurs. morning when their Dad is gone, but she's nice to them when he's around.

I told ex that this is why A***** hasn't wanted to go, etc. He calls me saying that he asked his wife and she says she doesn't yell, that the kids were on time, etc. Basically saying daughter is lying.

His solution is for me, him, my husband & his wife to sit down and talk about this, and let his wife defend herself against our 9 year old, and that we all could decide what to do with "all the lies the children have been telling". I objected, because:

- I didn't want to put myself in a situation where something I say is more than likely going to be used against me in the appeal.

- A child shouldn't be put up against an adult to defend herself

- I feel that no one should make decisions about our children but us!

He thinks I'm being irrational, etc. Was I wrong for not wanting to sit down and talk with him and his wife? I'm not trying to difficult, but honestly I don't know if I could of watched my mouth after all of the things that the kids say about her! I realize children will sometimes make up things, but our 9 year old cries at least two days before having to go with her Dad on Wed., but yet when she goes for the weekend, and she knows he'll be around, she's fine.

Should I bring this up at the appeal? I'm not trying to take his mid-week visits away from him, but even the kids teachers say the kids are tired all day Thursday, my 1st grader is making D's on his spelling tests (which he has on Thursdays - he gets the words on Tuesdays). The mid-week visits have been a nightmare from the get-go!

Any suggestions on how to handle this in court without looking like a total B****?
I think the Judge might tell all of you to knock it off.
 

xKellyx

Member
betterthanher said:
This is flat-out incorrect. Teachers will NOT get involved in this type of stuff. You even wanna REMOTELY try, you'll have to (most likely) go through the Board of Education and probably the teachers' union. You'll be lucky to even get a statement from the teacher -- again -- without going through the channels I mentioned.

have you read my occupation? I am currently a student teacher.
 

xKellyx

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betterthanher said:
How is not spending more time with their father NOT in the child's best interest??? :rolleyes:

QUOTE]


weekday visits are actually hard on a lot of children, and it doesn't look like father is really even spending time with them during these visits.
 

brisgirl825

Senior Member
betterthanher said:
How is not spending more time with their father NOT in the child's best interest??? :rolleyes:

I agree with you. However in this situation dad is not the one spending time with the kids. He is leaving that to SM, which is his right but sm is not getting the kids to school on time and not feeding them breakfast when that happens.

Dad should be making sure that sm is doing what is in the best interests of the kids and feeding the kids breakfast and getting to school on time, is in their best interests. If she doesn't want to do that, fine, they aren't her kids. But dad should then make it a priorty to make sure the kids are getting what they need in the morning so he CAN have extra time with them.
 

LdiJ

Senior Member
brisgirl825 said:
I agree with you. However in this situation dad is not the one spending time with the kids. He is leaving that to SM, which is his right but sm is not getting the kids to school on time and not feeding them breakfast when that happens.

Dad should be making sure that sm is doing what is in the best interests of the kids and feeding the kids breakfast and getting to school on time, is in their best interests. If she doesn't want to do that, fine, they aren't her kids. But dad should then make it a priorty to make sure the kids are getting what they need in the morning so he CAN have extra time with them.
I suspect that stepmom is not organized enough to deal with the kids on those mornings...and is perhaps even resentful of the need to be responsible.
Dad wants to maintain his "time"...and isn't willing to address the issues....and maybe even doesn't want to make "waves" with his wife.

...and of course, they both resent the child support....perhaps stepmom even more than dad.

In any case I agree that the "group meeting" is not going to benefit anyone...least of all the children. Parenting is between the parents, and any kind of meeting, even between the parents isn't particularly appropriate when an appeal is pending.

Does your children's school have an option for putting money "on account" for meals? If so, you might want to do that so that at least you don't have to worry that the kids can't eat because they don't have their breakfast or lunch money on them. You might even want to slip some breakfast bars into their backpacks so that they have something to eat if stepmom can't get her act together.
 
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