There is nothing to do until she does not get paid, or gets paid below the federal minimum wage ~ AND that won't happen until Friday, rightCurrently Working but Don't Know Rate of Pay
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What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? Pennsylvania
Hello. My fiancee has been looking for a job for almost two years. She was finally offered a job a couple of weeks ago.
Her first day was two Fridays ago (July 8). The company gets paid bi-weekly and the Friday she started was the company's payday. That was two weeks ago. She has since filled out all the required tax information (W4, I9, etc); however, she has yet to receive an official offer letter from the company.
This is a small company and it only has one newly hired Human Resources personnel. My fiancee has made several attempts to find out what her pay rate is and when she will get her first check. The latest email correspondence seems like more of the same runaround.
The position is only part-time and she has really only worked a few days so she is not expecting much in the way of a first paycheck. However, this position is in the exact field she wants to ultimately make a career and she is worried that causing too much of a wave may hurt her chances of advancement.
Here are our concerns:
- Is it "legal" for a company to either withhold or simply not disclose the pay rate?
- What else can my fiancee do beside continually asking for either the offer letter or simply her rate of pay?
- Does my fiancee have any legal recourse should she be fired for continually asking for her pay rate? (I believe PA is an "at-will" state but does that apply)
- If she quits this position because of this situation, can this company tarnish her credibility in some way...ultimately hurting her chances of getting another job in the same field?
We appreciate any information provided.
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What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? Pennsylvania
Hello. My fiancee has been looking for a job for almost two years. She was finally offered a job a couple of weeks ago.
Her first day was two Fridays ago (July 8). The company gets paid bi-weekly and the Friday she started was the company's payday. That was two weeks ago. She has since filled out all the required tax information (W4, I9, etc); however, she has yet to receive an official offer letter from the company.
This is a small company and it only has one newly hired Human Resources personnel. My fiancee has made several attempts to find out what her pay rate is and when she will get her first check. The latest email correspondence seems like more of the same runaround.
The position is only part-time and she has really only worked a few days so she is not expecting much in the way of a first paycheck. However, this position is in the exact field she wants to ultimately make a career and she is worried that causing too much of a wave may hurt her chances of advancement.
Here are our concerns:
- Is it "legal" for a company to either withhold or simply not disclose the pay rate?
- What else can my fiancee do beside continually asking for either the offer letter or simply her rate of pay?
- Does my fiancee have any legal recourse should she be fired for continually asking for her pay rate? (I believe PA is an "at-will" state but does that apply)
- If she quits this position because of this situation, can this company tarnish her credibility in some way...ultimately hurting her chances of getting another job in the same field?
We appreciate any information provided.
How hard is it to wait until Friday
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#3 Today, 03:23 PM
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Here are our concerns:
- Is it "legal" for a company to either withhold or simply not disclose the pay rate?
- What else can my fiancee do beside continually asking for either the offer letter or simply her rate of pay?
That is something people usually ask about BEFORE starting work.
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- Does my fiancee have any legal recourse should she be fired for continually asking for her pay rate? (I believe PA is an "at-will" state but does that apply)
Nope
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- If she quits this position because of this situation, can this company tarnish her credibility in some way...ultimately hurting her chances of getting another job in the same field?
Do you mean something along the lines of telling people that she came on and continually pestered HR and then quit for no good reason? Yeah.
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#4 Today, 03:26 PM
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How hard is it to wait until Friday
Thanks for your response but I hope you are being facetious. Her concern is not the pay itself. From the interview, she has a pretty good understanding of what she can expect. Her concern is how this situation is being handled
The offer letter, with rate of pay, should have been prepped and ready for her signature either before she started or on the day she started. Of course we could have waited until Friday. Now, what happens if Friday comes and goes and she does not get a check at all? Then what? These are rhetorical questions.
If you have any insight on the original questions, that would be appreciated.
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Thanks for your response but I hope you are being facetious. Her concern is not the pay itself. From the interview, she has a pretty good understanding of what she can expect. Her concern is how this situation is being handled
The offer letter, with rate of pay, should have been prepped and ready for her signature either before she started or on the day she started. Of course we could have waited until Friday. Now, what happens if Friday comes and goes and she does not get a check at all? Then what? These are rhetorical questions.
If you have any insight on the original questions, that would be appreciated.
Please tell us - what makes you think there is any legal requirement that the employer present an "offer letter"?
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#6 Today, 03:33 PM
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That is something people usually ask about BEFORE starting work.
Wow. The sarcasm is thick in this forum. Being out of work for two years, do you really think it wise to state, "I will not start working without an offer letter."?
She was interviewed on July 6 and called on July 7 to start on July 8. Should she have turned the position down because an offer letter was not provided within that 24 hour period?
I really doubt those that have commented thus far would be so flippant if they were in this situation.
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#7 Today, 03:35 PM
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Please tell us - what makes you think there is any legal requirement that the employer present an "offer letter"?
The same thing that made me think turning to this forum was a good idea. I guess you get what you pay for. It's obvious our concerns are not going to be taking seriously here. Good day.
If and when that happens she should contact her DOL
I was not being sarcastic. Hello MrFly (now that was sarcasm).
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