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[Kevinweng99]

Guys, all I wanted are some fair response. I am not begging any one of you to answer my questions. If the lesson is to hire a lawyer, so be it.

If you look at this thread, after I post the questions, I have to deal with distraction about "homework" comments from someone, and more ridiculous is that the he took the effort to copy and past the same comment on all my questions at the same time, if you care to trace the link. And then another guy jump in dismiss it as "worthless and unfocused". I was clearly agitated. So we are moving further and further away from what this thread is about.

As I stated numerous times, I will be more than happy to provide more info. Well I have not seen any request for that without a tone. I don't see the need for that now because the focus has not been on the questions.

I get some good answers on my other 2 questions. So overall it is not too bad. I will dismiss this is just one unfortunate online experience.

 

[eerelations]

Two observations and one question:

* You seem more interested in spending time arguing with people here than in spending that time working on starting your new business.

* The information you're seeking can't be all that important to you if you're willing to get it from unpaid volunteer strangers who may or may not be qualified to provide accurate information.

* How can you afford to start a new business if you don't have/are unwilling to pay the money required to get good, sound and accurate information from a trained and reputable attorney?

 

[Gadfly]

My model is a bit different in the sense that money will have to go through my business. In another word, I pay the shipping provider and I charge the requester shipping fee. (Don't ask why because it is the business model). That is almost the only difference. Even though I pay the provider, I may not know who they are, every transaction is online and I am just the middle man. I pay them through paypal or credit account.

I really don't see what makes your model different from any other pack 'n send.

 

[Kevinweng99]

* You seem more interested in spending time arguing with people here than in spending that time working on starting your new business.

You are right. I will take your advice not to resply to any further distraction.

* The information you're seeking can't be all that important to you if you're willing to get it from unpaid volunteer strangers who may or may not be qualified to provide accurate information.

* How can you afford to start a new business if you don't have/are unwilling to pay the money required to get good, sound and accurate information from a trained and reputable attorney?

This is an interesting question. What I found is that the money you paid and the quality of service/answers you get is not always proportional. e.g., I got excellent answers to my two other questions here for free. I doubt I can get the same kind of answer if I go out to find a lawyer through traditional venue, like calling their office, setting up appointment etc.
When I get the answers, I can check the replier’s credibility. And I don't just blindly accept any answers, either free of charge of paid answers. So whether I get the answer free or through paid service does not really matter. I have to be convinced by the reasoning behind it and do more homework to make sure the answers are reliable. I will be foolish to take an advice from a forum and run with it. I will spend the money when it is needed. It is always wise to be frugal when starting up a business.

This is the power and spirit of Internet. Ironically this is what my business model will be based on.

 

[Kevinweng99]

ok let's shift back to the topic. I am looking for a lawyer that is willing to help startup with deferred pay. You can laugh the notion of putting lawyer and defer pay in the same sentence. But I didn't invent that. See this blog:
http://allensblog.typepad.com/allens.*****08/index.html

"... Third, see a lawyer early in the process to make sure the details of your particular situation are kosher and that you’re protected (especially about how to apply my preceding two items of advice to your situation). While lawyers are expensive, most of the good ones will work for promising startups on a deferred or discounted billing arrangement. If the lawyer you’ve been introduced to won’t do this, find another lawyer. The really good ones will. To be clear, even lawyers who focus on startups can’t work forever without getting paid. So prudence and clear communication will also have to be your guides. "

My website is http://www.vertour.com, but you need to request a loging from me. Again it is confidential business model so I can't publish it here. Trust me I don't play game. This is just business.

PM me and I will follow up. What I am looking for in this forum is legal help, not validation of business model. I get some positive feedback from other forum like startupnation.com.

Peace.

 

[Kevinweng99]

Ok I feel I owe you more background info. Here is what I posted in other dedicated entrepreneur forum, just to intrigue you to listen to me:

...If you've noticed, there is increased trend that big retailers like Wal-Mart and BestBuy are offering online order with free store pick up service. To me online order is cool but store pick up just defeats the purpose of online. High shipping cost is not good either.

Well I've developed an unconventional business model to do efficient home delivery of online order from local retail store. By deploying this model, retailers like Wal-mart and BestBuy can offer online shopping with low shipping cost. How low? I am talking about less than the driving cost if you chose to shop in store personally, if you consider the driving cost of every mile is about $.80, according to http://www.commutesolutions.org/calc.htm. Online shopping from Wal-Mart with low shipping cost is golden: It is convenient, it is cheap and you can return to Wal-Mart if you don't like what you buy...

Here is one of many positive feedback:

Kevin:email sent, I just wanted to let everybody here know that I was pleasantly surprised with your program, I didn't see it coming..

This is serious stuff, no joke, folks. So please help me out.