What jurisdiction does a county have to impose property taxes?

[juntjoo]

What is the name of your state?

Fl

Doesn't it need a contract to impose this kind of debt collection? Does a typical outright cash purchase of a warranty deed involve some contract to pay taxes perpetually or at all?

 

[Zigner]

What is the name of your state?

Fl

Doesn't it need a contract to impose this kind of debt collection? Does a typical outright cash purchase of a warranty deed involve some contract to pay taxes perpetually or at all?

It's not a contract insofar as the county is concerned.

 

[Zigner]

Post Hx might be an interesting read.

 

[Taxing Matters]

Doesn't it need a contract to impose this kind of debt collection?

No, it doesn't. That's because the state and local government have the authority to impose taxes and have passed statutes/ordinances imposing various taxes on real estate.

Does a typical outright cash purchase of a warranty deed involve some contract to pay taxes perpetually or at all?

This not a contract matter. The purchase of the land triggers the obligation to pay certain taxes to the state and local governments. You're not going to win on this by trying to argue it's a contract matter. Indeed, if you pursued that angle a court may will find your claim frivolous and impose a penalty on for doing it.

Nobody really likes paying taxes. But they are a necessary cost to fund the government services that the public wants.

 

[juntjoo]

Post Hx might be an interesting read.

What's that? I Google it and got programming stuff

 

[Just Blue]

What's that? I Google it and got programming stuff

Post Hx = Posting History.

 

[juntjoo]

No, it doesn't. That's because the state and local government have the authority to impose taxes and have passed statutes/ordinances imposing various taxes on real estate.



This not a contract matter. The purchase of the land triggers the obligation to pay certain taxes to the state and local governments. You're not going to win on this by trying to argue it's a contract matter. Indeed, if you pursued that angle a court may will find your claim frivolous and impose a penalty on for doing it.

Nobody really likes paying taxes. But they are a necessary cost to fund the government services that the public wants.

Well how did they get the authority to impose taxes on people? Something doesn't sound right there

 

[Bali Hai Again]

Well how did they get the authority to impose taxes on people? Something doesn't sound right there

Al Capone asked the same question and wondered the same thing from his cell on Alcatraz Island.

 

[Taxing Matters]

Well how did they get the authority to impose taxes on people? Something doesn't sound right there

Why doesn't it sound right to you? Simply because you do not like paying the tax? The citizens of the state, through the democratic process, enabled that to occur. The people of Florida approved the Florida Constitution, which sets out the system of government that Florida uses. In that Constitution it lays out what taxes the state and municipal governments may impose. See Fl Const. Article VII. Using that authority, the state legislature and local governments pass taxing states through the representatives elected by the people of the state/local government. So if you don't like a particular tax, contact your state/local representatives to voice your opinion and go out and convince your fellow citizens to support the tax changes you want. That's how our democratic system works.

 

[Taxing Matters]

Al Capone asked the same question and wondered the same thing from his cell on Alcatraz Island.

Actually, no, that's not right. Al Capone did not challenge the validity of the federal income tax. Al Capone did not file accurate federal and state income tax returns for fear of revealing the income from his illegal activities and to save some of that income from going to the government. He was a crook, and since he didn't mind killing, robbing, and cheating everyone else, he certainly had no qualms about cheating the government either.

 

[juntjoo]

Why doesn't it sound right to you? Simply because you do not like paying the tax? The citizens of the state, through the democratic process, enabled that to occur. The people of Florida approved the Florida Constitution, which sets out the system of government that Florida uses. In that Constitution it lays out what taxes the state and municipal governments may impose. See Fl Const. Article VII. Using that authority, the state legislature and local governments pass taxing states through the representatives elected by the people of the state/local government. So if you don't like a particular tax, contact your state/local representatives to voice your opinion and go out and convince your fellow citizens to support the tax changes you want. That's how our democratic system works.

Well, it's besides the point, but the answer is by fraud. "the people" you speak of aren't individuals of conscious minds who made these decisions, they're a mass of sheep who just do what their parents and neighbors do. No one in the right mind would agree for all of us to be forced to do anything.

 

[Taxing Matters]

Well, it's besides the point, but the answer is by fraud. "the people" you speak of aren't individuals of conscious minds who made these decisions, they're a mass of sheep who just do what their parents and neighbors do. No one in the right mind would agree for all of us to be forced to do anything.

That response tells me you don't support democracy as a way to govern the nation. You'd prefer one smart dictator to make those decisions? History shows up one man dictatorships usually end up very badly for the citizens of those countries. Your statement that "No one in the right mind would agree for all of us to be forced to do anything" isn't accurate. While not everyone agrees with the laws of the nation and the state, under the system we have, for most things it only takes a majority to agree on something. For those opposed, sure it sucks. But then there will be other issues on which you are on the prevailing side and your opponents will just have to live with it. In short, you win some, you lose some, just like in everything else life. As the Rolling Stones sang:

No, you can't always get what you want​

You can't always get what you want​

You can't always get what you want​

But if you try sometime you'll find​

You get what you need​

If what you want is instead no government, history tells us that true anarchy just devolves into violence and chaos. Democracy has its faults, but it is still by far the best system for protecting the rights of the citizens and for the citizens (the majority of them at least) to get the policies they favor. You don't have to like the tax. But if you support the Constitution and the democratic process then you ought to nevertheless respect that a majority of your fellow citizens supported it and comply with the law. And also recognize that you can change that if you can convince a majority of your fellow citizens to repeal it. If you are not willing to put in the work to make that effort, then it's not going to change. Just grumbling about it does nothing.

 

[juntjoo]

That response tells me you don't support democracy as a way to govern the nation. You'd prefer one smart dictator to make those decisions? History shows up one man dictatorships usually end up very badly for the citizens of those countries. Your statement that "No one in the right mind would agree for all of us to be forced to do anything" isn't accurate. While not everyone agrees with the laws of the nation and the state, under the system we have, for most things it only takes a majority to agree on something. For those opposed, sure it sucks. But then there will be other issues on which you are on the prevailing side and your opponents will just have to live with it. In short, you win some, you lose some, just like in everything else life. As the Rolling Stones sang:

No, you can't always get what you want​

You can't always get what you want​

You can't always get what you want​

But if you try sometime you'll find​

You get what you need​

If what you want is instead no government, history tells us that true anarchy just devolves into violence and chaos. Democracy has its faults, but it is still by far the best system for protecting the rights of the citizens and for the citizens (the majority of them at least) to get the policies they favor. You don't have to like the tax. But if you support the Constitution and the democratic process then you ought to nevertheless respect that a majority of your fellow citizens supported it and comply with the law. And also recognize that you can change that if you can convince a majority of your fellow citizens to repeal it. If you are not willing to put in the work to make that effort, then it's not going to change. Just grumbling about it does nothing.

Everything you're saying comes from a place of brainwashing by a secret dictatorship that controls how people vote through media entertainment and education. But anyway, no one voted on forced taxes. We all just acquiesced. Unless I'm wrong, then correct me. They just snuck them in correct?

 

[adjusterjack]

Stop feeding the troll.

Anything you write, he will respond with drivel.

 

[Bali Hai Again]

Actually, no, that's not right. Al Capone did not challenge the validity of the federal income tax. Al Capone did not file accurate federal and state income tax returns for fear of revealing the income from his illegal activities and to save some of that income from going to the government. He was a crook, and since he didn't mind killing, robbing, and cheating everyone else, he certainly had no qualms about cheating the government either.

Al Capone wrongly said “they can’t collect legal taxes on illegal money” as a defense so he knew the government had a record of his illegal gains. Yes he was a crook, killer, robber and cheater within organized crime families who did the same things during prohibition turf wars. The government actually wanted him for more severe crimes that they couldn’t prove and had to settle for income tax evasion. Prohibition actually created the Al Capone’s and their tipsy clients including government officials loved them.