What will happen to me if my school loses this lawsuit?

[Humusluvr]

You mentioned you work for a school? That makes your lack of knowledge about accreditation more frightening. You said what I am saying is all matter of opinion and claim that because you have expressed your opinion more than 2400 times that makes you credible? ARE YOU SERIOUS?

A DEGREE makes you credible, WORK EXPERIENCE makes you credible, 2400 posts...I don't think so.

I have a bachelor's degree from an accredited private University.

I have a Master's Degree from an accredited State University.

And I am almost finished with a PhD, where I educate future teachers.

I taught public school, and was an assistant principal for 10 years.

I have taught at the University level 3 years.

Just because you call names and bluff and posture, and try to put someone down when you don't like their opinion or Google skills is rather ridiculous. But not unexplained, seeing where you were educated

 

[Jay47x2x]

Because Penn State is such a crappy school right? Your un-named "accredited private school" is so much better?

I have agreed with you that changes need to be made. But I have PROVEN, not opinionated (if that's a word) but PROVEN that what you said about Kaplan's accreditation was wrong. All I am asking you to do is admit it. I know it may upset you that Notre Dame and Kaplan share the same Regional accreditation but hey, facts are facts.

Kaplan is not the best school in the country, but they are an AWESOME alternative for students who do not have time or resources for a school like the ones we have mentioned. And once again, they are NOT under investigation, or have EVER been under investigation for FRAUD.

But aside from all the name calling and bullying that makes these forums so much fun, I hope I have given a little insight to the truth about Kaplan's accreditation, alleged mis-representation, and programs.

If the credentials you listed are true, I don't know why you were leaning so heavily on your measly 2400 posts...why not just come out and say it. With that being said, I will give you the benefit of the doubt and I won’t ask for any specifics. Respect is earned, it has been a good debate, and going on your word assuming your telling the truth, I absolutely respect your educational background, and now, I respect your opinion.

Thank you for sharing.

 

[ecmst12]

Penn State is a perfectly good school. Some of the STUDENTS are crappy, too busy partying to do any work, but for students who take advantage of it, they will get a fine education there.

I'm guessing you were one of the partiers.

 

[Jay47x2x]

I think you should read the rest of the thread.

Humusluvr was implying that I went to a school inferior to his. My comment about Penn State being crappy was sarcasm.

I graduated from Penn State magna cum-laude. I love Penn State and I am very proud of where I got my education.

 

[Humusluvr]

Because Penn State is such a crappy school right? Your un-named "accredited private school" is so much better?

I think Penn State is excellent. It was Kaplan I was referring to.

I have agreed with you that changes need to be made. But I have PROVEN, not opinionated (if that's a word) but PROVEN that what you said about Kaplan's accreditation was wrong. All I am asking you to do is admit it. I know it may upset you that Notre Dame and Kaplan share the same Regional accreditation but hey, facts are facts.

OK, I will admit it. What I SHOULD have said is that Notre Dame is a a private, catholic, research university, and Kaplan is a for-profit university.

Kaplan is not the best school in the country, but they are an AWESOME alternative for students who do not have time or resources for a school like the ones we have mentioned. And once again, they are NOT under investigation, or have EVER been under investigation for FRAUD.

That is what the original poster said, not what I said. I said that Kaplan is being investigated, along with the rest of the for-profit education industry, for their "supposed" predatory lending practices. That Kaplan students are often promised educations that make so little money that the student would never be able to pay back the loan, and then they default on the loan. That so few students pay back their loans, in the for-profit education industry, that the government is targeting them for reform. This includes Kaplan.

If the credentials you listed are true, I don't know why you were leaning so heavily on your measly 2400 posts...why not just come out and say it. With that being said, I will give you the benefit of the doubt and I won’t ask for any specifics. Respect is earned, it has been a good debate, and going on your word assuming your telling the truth, I absolutely respect your educational background, and now, I respect your opinion.

Thank you for sharing.

Ed law is a tricky thing, and most of my FA "friends" post in other forums. I have earned the title of senior here by advising a lot of students, parents, teachers, and consumers about the details of their education. It's an amazingly broad field, and I'm not a lawyer, but I know my stuff. I will admit when I'm wrong, and I will give my opinion, and I'm usually pretty insightful.

 

[Humusluvr]

Penn State is a perfectly good school. Some of the STUDENTS are crappy, too busy partying to do any work, but for students who take advantage of it, they will get a fine education there.

I'm guessing you were one of the partiers.

I think that is true of ALL schools. Often, the perils of a few students cloud the perfectly good schools.

For-profit education is one field I don't trust. When I interviewed at a for profit school (they wanted me to teach Anatomy and Physiology to med-tech students) I learned about how they herd the students through the class in one month, and at huge expense. There was little to no guarantee that they would be employable when they received their degree, and often the students weren't ones that ANY business would want to employ. If they could get a med-tech job, it would be for minimum wage. It wasn't somewhere I ended up wanting to work. It was NOT Kaplan, and it was for very basic degrees and certificates.

The one area I would give Kaplan credit is in Master's degrees for people like teachers. Teachers who are working on a Master's degree are often trying to advance in their jobs or attain a higher pay grade. For teachers who work all day, doing a Master's degree online is great. I started mine through University of Phoenix, but found that I preferred a brick and mortar school where I had interactions with the people I would be working with.

I'm assuming that since the gentleman I am debating with had a degree from Penn, he got a Master's through Kaplan, and that is all well and good. A Master's degree is quite a different beast than an associates or certification program, which is where Kaplan is running into it's troubles.

 

[Jay47x2x]

That would be correct. I am currently working towards my MSIT at Kaplan. The program is not easy.

I believe that many changes need to made for undergrad programs at all for-profit schools. Too many people coming through the door that do not belong in school, but for the students who belong, the education is valuable, and that is the 37% that are in a position to pay on their loans. That percentage needs to increase and I believe Kaplan will remain at the front in improvment and advancements. Again, in my experience Kaplan University has been 1st class for higher education online, and I am proud to be a student.

 

[TigerD]

That would be correct. I am currently working towards my MSIT at Kaplan. The program is not easy.

I know you are having a hard time coming to terms with people looking down on your school. The fact is: Your school does not have a good reputation. A Harvard grad is not going to consider a graduate of PoDunk Community College to have anything remotely near his level of education regardless of how much PoDunk charges.

The fact is those of us who went to real colleges, by and large, do not equate your school with quality education.

Nothing on this thread from you has helped your case. It isn't an attack on you. It is reality. You seem like a fairly intelligent person. Pick another school. I am sure you can find one you can be proud of and people won't snicker at behind your back.

Just don't go to any school in Kansas.

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