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BL

Senior Member
He/She is a Lawyer that represents the child's' best interest and makes recommendations to the Court .

He/She may interview , review records , etc . to make a report and testify in Court .
 


sandysue

Member
i asked a teacher from the old school if she could write a basic character reference for me, nothing biased, nothing involved, she said she'd like to, she really liked me and felt I showed I was a good parent, but her boss doesnt let employees do even trivial thing for court stuff. That is the same district as the school this other principal is from, and he is doing alot more than writing a character reference. How can one district have different rules for it's schools? Sorry to be redundant, i didnt want my question to 'get lost'. Just seems like if one school in district can do it, then the others can too, or vice versa.
 

casa

Senior Member
i asked a teacher from the old school if she could write a basic character reference for me, nothing biased, nothing involved, she said she'd like to, she really liked me and felt I showed I was a good parent, but her boss doesnt let employees do even trivial thing for court stuff. That is the same district as the school this other principal is from, and he is doing alot more than writing a character reference. How can one district have different rules for it's schools? Sorry to be redundant, i didnt want my question to 'get lost'. Just seems like if one school in district can do it, then the others can too, or vice versa.
I think you are asking if you can force that nice teacher to do something for you for court. You cannot. Whether her Principal has a 'school policy' or just...'encourages' teachers to avoid doing affidavit/declarations is irrelevant. She said No. :cool:
 

casa

Senior Member
...in addition (so you don't think your question wasn't answered exactly), even if you hired an attorney & subpoena the teacher, AND the judge allowed it~ Do you think she'd be so supportive of your character after all that? Not listening to her when she originally said "No" and politely declined, Taking her time from her students, Pissing off her boss, The 'Joy' of cross-examination, etc. etc. etc.:rolleyes:
 

sandysue

Member
actually she said she wanted to, and spent time talking with her boss to get 'permission' to write a reference, but her boss said there is a policy that prohibits school staff from doing anyting court related. It was not a matter of she personally did not want to, she wanted to and was told policy forbids it.
that's why i dont understand how the other school principal coudl be so over involved-- same district, two very different policies...i personally think both of those are inappropriate. For a principal to leave 1000 kids to go to court, for something mundane, is very out of line, but it also seems not quite right that the other school does not allow a teacher to write a neutral unbiased reference for a parent, since that is not taking sides, or doing much, it's just saying the truth of what they observed.
 

sandysue

Member
i wondered a little about that, I mean nobody wants to be subpoenaed...which is why it's easier to just write a basic note. I would not want to have to subpoena her, and can't say how she might be...she is a very decent person who I worked veyr well with and helped her alot as well, she asked me to teach art on volunteer basis for her class which I did several times, and also helped with a reading activity, so I know she likes me personally, etc BUT as you said noone wants to be forced to come to court, but it often ends up like that, which is all the more reason at why it's so unusual for the principal to volunteer to run down there!! I remember an attorney telling me often times people end up having to be subpoenaed, bc nobody likes court,...again, here's a principal running down on his own volition, seems a littel too eager!!
 

BL

Senior Member
made some pretty outrageous requests of me, asked me if he could hop in my car after a meeting andcome to my home...scheduled a meeting time with my ex but not with me,.

I think this treads getting ridiculous .
 

casa

Senior Member
i wondered a little about that, I mean nobody wants to be subpoenaed...which is why it's easier to just write a basic note. I would not want to have to subpoena her, and can't say how she might be...she is a very decent person who I worked veyr well with and helped her alot as well, she asked me to teach art on volunteer basis for her class which I did several times, and also helped with a reading activity, so I know she likes me personally, etc BUT as you said noone wants to be forced to come to court, but it often ends up like that, which is all the more reason at why it's so unusual for the principal to volunteer to run down there!! I remember an attorney telling me often times people end up having to be subpoenaed, bc nobody likes court,...again, here's a principal running down on his own volition, seems a littel too eager!!
It's not just a 'basic note'...that's what you are not grasping. ANY testimony you provide, means the other side has a right to contradict it. Meaning if she gives testimony (whether written, oral or otherwise) then she needs to be available for the other side to cross-examine. That could mean A LOT of time away from work. Principals don't all make the same school policies even if in the same county. That's why they are called 'school policy' and not District Policy.

YOU may see her testimony as nuetral...but that doesn't mean it is. What if you weren't stable or even normal but that teacher liked you anyway? Or was your friend? What if the Principal is only going to say the same thing(s) about your X? It just doesn't matter.

Last time I'm going to say: What matters are Attendance records/Academic progress/Abuse/Neglect.
 

Silverplum

Senior Member
sandysue, WHY are you obsessing on this one issue? Why are you convinced that you will be in court and need a teacher's character reference? Why are you convinced that the principal will prefer your husband and that will be so very detrimental to you?
 

sandysue

Member
just trying to figure out how one school district with 2 schools could have 2 different policies...that's all. It does matter, because my child matters... I only am concerned about this particular princpal bc he obviously has issues probably with women, but who knows, and acted very discriminatory to me all along, then found out he was having discussions over the summer with my ex....so, call that obsessed or whatever, to me it is pretty commonsense to see that for whatever personal reasons or issues he has, that he has been cohorting with my ex. Since i didnt do anything wrong it is a concern if he's going to court to talk about me, not much tosay. I guess I'll sign off. I found some of the advice very helpful...
 

Zephyr

Senior Member
just trying to figure out how one school district with 2 schools could have 2 different policies...that's all. It does matter, because my child matters... I only am concerned about this particular princpal bc he obviously has issues probably with women, but who knows, and acted very discriminatory to me all along, then found out he was having discussions over the summer with my ex....so, call that obsessed or whatever, to me it is pretty commonsense to see that for whatever personal reasons or issues he has, that he has been cohorting with my ex. Since i didnt do anything wrong it is a concern if he's going to court to talk about me, not much tosay. I guess I'll sign off. I found some of the advice very helpful...
you know employees of the school system often have friends and acquaintances who are not employees of the school system- I think you ex may be friends with him- and he gets his kicks out of pulling your chain by saying the "principal" is gonna testify against you- as was said before - why the hell are you listening to your ex?
 

LdiJ

Senior Member
just trying to figure out how one school district with 2 schools could have 2 different policies...that's all. It does matter, because my child matters... I only am concerned about this particular princpal bc he obviously has issues probably with women, but who knows, and acted very discriminatory to me all along, then found out he was having discussions over the summer with my ex....so, call that obsessed or whatever, to me it is pretty commonsense to see that for whatever personal reasons or issues he has, that he has been cohorting with my ex. Since i didnt do anything wrong it is a concern if he's going to court to talk about me, not much tosay. I guess I'll sign off. I found some of the advice very helpful...
You don't actually know that two different school systems have two different policies.

All you have is your ex's word that the particular principal in question intends to behave unprofessionally and get involved in your case.....and some unclear explanation about the principal's behavior.

Stop, take a big deep breath and re-explain, CLEARLY, what the principal has done (other than what your ex has said).
 

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