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Unfair Alimoney Expectations

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LdiJ

Senior Member
and a job, evenif it is at jack in the box. (no offense************** to jack that is)
Not necessarily...student loans can allow someone to avoid part time work as well....of course that means that they will have more to pay back later....but sometimes that's worth it depending on how they structure their course load.
 


fairisfair

Senior Member
Not necessarily...student loans can allow someone to avoid part time work as well....of course that means that they will have more to pay back later....but sometimes that's worth it depending on how they structure their course load.
well of course technically and financially she doesn't "have" to get a job, heck she could just play poker, or win the lottery every other week, for that matter.

Morally, she needs to get off her lazy butt and get a JOB. Regardless of student loans or spousal support, or any other kind of assistance she might wind up with.
 
I understand that she would be able to earn more with a completed BA/BS degree, however, I feel like I'm on the hook for her bad decisions. I paid off all her student loans for her 6 years of college. Now I will be expected to pay for more?

I guess if I have to pay for a finite period of time that is better than until death or another marriage.
 

fairisfair

Senior Member
I understand that she would be able to earn more with a completed BA/BS degree, however, I feel like I'm on the hook for her bad decisions. I paid off all her student loans for her 6 years of college. Now I will be expected to pay for more?

I guess if I have to pay for a finite period of time that is better than until death or another marriage.
Yes, you definitely want to motion for NO Alimony, and then only for very short term alimony, there is no reason why a woman can't take care of herself. For crying out loud since when did getting married lead to permanent employment disability???

I am a mom, and in AZ and there are plenty of just dandy jobs here.

And personally, I totally disagree with Ldij's idea that she should proceed with her education before getting a job. That is a luxury that MOST people don't have, why should she, just because YOU are working.
 

Bali Hai

Senior Member
And is she paying CS?

If you have already been providing her the means to be self sufficient, I would really fight for a very short term of alimony AND CS.

After SIX years of college she SHOULD be considered capable or nearly of entering the workforce.
I would fight for NO freaking alimony at all. Gold digger has gotten all the free ride she is going to get!!
 

Bali Hai

Senior Member
This is a woman here .... I was awarded the custody of the kids with supervised visits to the dad - and yeah, HE was asking for spousal support, even thought we both had the same bachelor degrees - judge told 'em - get a job .... flip burgers, whatever - but get a job! He was told that he wasn't disabled, and if he was, then get a doctor to diagnose him as such, and then get on social security.

Suggestion here ... is she CAPABLE of working? Why didn't she work while you were married?
Sure that judge will tell a MAN that crap, but the minute a woman is told that, he judge loses their job!!
 

Just Blue

Senior Member
If she hasn't worked in 13 years, then its quite likely that should WOULD need to go back to school to obtain marketable skills....or to at least finish a degree. Yes, you are likely to be on the hook for some short term alimony, but she can't expect you to foot the entire bill....she needs to get financial aid and student loans.
She has been going to school for 6 frickin years!! Time to get a job NOW!! Why should the OP pay for his EX WIFE to be a professional student?? Would you give the same advice if the OP were a woman and the STBX in question a man?? I doubt it! You have a definite bias against men LD...
 

Bali Hai

Senior Member
She has been going to school for 6 frickin years!! Time to get a job NOW!! Why should the OP pay for his EX WIFE to be a professional student?? Would you give the same advice if the OP were a woman and the SBX in question a man?? I doubt it! You have a definite bias against men LD...
I love you baystategirl!!!:)
 
Does it matter that the judge assigned to my divorce is a woman? So far she seems fair and has even threatened my almostX with sanctions. Still don't know what "sanctions" means.
 

Bali Hai

Senior Member
Does it matter that the judge assigned to my divorce is a woman? So far she seems fair and has even threatened my almostX with sanctions. Still don't know what "sanctions" means.
Technically the law says no. Woman judges are just as biased against men as men judges. This is a polictial game and in REALITY, YES it matters a great deal.

Court sanctions are basically a monetary fine, or something thought up by the court to make you pay, and means that the court is pissed because someone either acted like a jerk in front of the judge, OR, the opposing counsel convinced the court judge that you were a jerk.
 
So where is the reality in the justice system? Is the judge likely to "force" almostX to get a job and support herself, or is likely that since I am "willing" to work, that I will support her?
 

Bali Hai

Senior Member
So where is the reality in the justice system? Is the judge likely to "force" almostX to get a job and support herself, or is likely that since I am "willing" to work, that I will support her?
Simple answer, you are not only "willing" to work, you are EXPECTED and are GOING to work to support her OR ELSE!!
 
Simple answer, you are not only "willing" to work, you are EXPECTED and are GOING to work to support her OR ELSE!!
I said it before and I'll say it again, Bali speaks the plain, almost painful, truth. I don't like what you say, but it's the likely outcome.

F*&K F*&J F*&K -

I got a promo about 6 months ago (15% + some stuff). Is almostX entitled to profit from my hard work? I filed 13 months ago, can she profit from my good work while she sits on her ass?
 

fairisfair

Senior Member
I said it before and I'll say it again, Bali speaks the plain, almost painful, truth. I don't like what you say, but it's the likely outcome.

F*&K F*&J F*&K -

I got a promo about 6 months ago (15% + some stuff). Is almostX entitled to profit from my hard work? I filed 13 months ago, can she profit from my good work while she sits on her ass?
oh for goodness sake, why don't you two take it to pm. you sound like a couple of girls in the bathroom together. :rolleyes:
 

LdiJ

Senior Member
Yes, you definitely want to motion for NO Alimony, and then only for very short term alimony, there is no reason why a woman can't take care of herself. For crying out loud since when did getting married lead to permanent employment disability???

I am a mom, and in AZ and there are plenty of just dandy jobs here.

And personally, I totally disagree with Ldij's idea that she should proceed with her education before getting a job. That is a luxury that MOST people don't have, why should she, just because YOU are working.
No, I did not say that she should proceed with her education before getting a job. I said that if she wanted to take on the burden of higher student loans, in order to finish more quickly, that it was a perfectly acceptable option....and her choice.

This is what his attorney says:
My question is: My attorney indicated I could expect to pay some alimoney for probably half the number of years married. Is this reasonable? My spouse comes from a wealthy family, but does not have direct access to any of those funds. She won't disclose her bank records even though directed by the court to do so.
Since I assume that his attorney knows more about his case than we do, I am structuring my responses based on what his attorney is telling him.
 

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