I ALSO need help REALLY bad!!

[Just Blue]

Or, even better. "What are you going to do with your daughter while you're in school?"

Tell them you are locking her in a closet under sedation...That'll shut them up...lol!!! (just kidding!!!)

 

[TCool]

Tell them you are locking her in a closet under sedation...That'll shut them up...lol!!! (just kidding!!!)

Actually I usually tell them that I'm duct taping her to a wall so she can't get in trouble while I'm gone. But I like that one, I'll have to use it next time.

I think I once said that I was going to put her in the dog kennel also. Some peoples stupidity is shocking, but it can be quite entertaining at the same time.

 

[majomom1]

If that is interferring with a parents time then why can't the school deny to let the child go with the parent who does not currently have visitation?

The daycare my daughter goes to tells me that can't legally keep her mother from picking her up regardless of court ordered visitation times. So, if your saying that it's contempt for a parent to pick up their child when its not their time then why can't the daycare/school just deny that that parent take the child if the court order is provided to them that lays out the parenting time? For example, why can't I show my daycare provider the court order that lays out the parenting time and tell them the mother of my child is not allowed to pick her up if it is not her parenting time?

Just want to point out I'm not questioning your intelligence here, or saying your wrong, but sincerely confused about this. Because, my daycare told me they absolutely can't refuse to let mom take my daughter unless they are provided with a court order that specifically states that mom can't pick her up from daycare.

Oh... I know it can sound stupid (and I am not always intelligent or right), but think about it. Picking up the child is not the interference... where they take the child 'could' be. Example: If mom picks them up, on your time, and brings them directly to you, that is not interference. If she takes them somewhere else, and doesn't tell you... that is interference.

The school cannot deny either parent the right to their child, without a court order. Just like they cannot deny you access to the child's records. They have no way of knowing for sure whose time it is, or whether or not the parents agreed to a change or variance. With all of the "different" visitation schedules it would be impossible for them to keep track... and quite frankly why should they have to?

Fry's example was that Dad could show up, any time, and take the child from Grandma. That is not true. Grandma is a legal stranger, but if mom left the child in her care, she can refuse to turn the child over, if it is moms time. Now if it is Dad's time... then Grandma does have to turn the child over to Dad.

Same would go for a babysitter in your house. Mom cannot show up, on your time, and demand that the sitter turn the child over to her, just because you are not there, and the sitter is a legal stranger.

 

[majomom1]

No damage, was just curious. Actually, as long as mom lets me know, I don't care if she picks her up from daycare. I've actually been pushing her to spend more time with our daughter. She likes to give up her weekends a lot, and has gone up to a month with no contact with our daughter before.

But anyway, thanks for answering the question. Reading this stuff has the tendancy to make me curious about things, even if its about things that don't have a lot to do with my situation. Stupid desire for learning!

That is the key right there... it's called common courtesy!!!

And I agree with bay.... a desire for learning is never stupid!!!

 

[Ohiogal]

There's all kinds of history here, OG. He's gotten RO's, she's gotten RO's, he's accusing the grandmother's boyfriend of dealing drugs, he's trying to get the mother's boyfriend investigated for sexually abusing the daughter, it's a mess.

In January he hadn't paid child support in four years due to an informal agreement they had, and he was asking about obtaining custody. You guys told him if he went for custody he could count on the mother filing contempt for non-payment. Guess what happened eight months later? Yeah.

It's all pretty convoluted.

Dang I had a typo. It should have been laws not lies. Then maybe he should have done a recap of all that here. HOWEVER it does NOT excuse him for carrying a gun outside his house when the mother of his child shows up nor refusing to leave the child with grandma when there is no order stating he shouldn't and the child was at mom's to receive the child.

 

[Ohiogal]

Oh... I know it can sound stupid (and I am not always intelligent or right), but think about it. Picking up the child is not the interference... where they take the child 'could' be. Example: If mom picks them up, on your time, and brings them directly to you, that is not interference. If she takes them somewhere else, and doesn't tell you... that is interference.

The school cannot deny either parent the right to their child, without a court order. Just like they cannot deny you access to the child's records. They have no way of knowing for sure whose time it is, or whether or not the parents agreed to a change or variance. With all of the "different" visitation schedules it would be impossible for them to keep track... and quite frankly why should they have to?

Fry's example was that Dad could show up, any time, and take the child from Grandma. That is not true. Grandma is a legal stranger, but if mom left the child in her care, she can refuse to turn the child over, if it is moms time. Now if it is Dad's time... then Grandma does have to turn the child over to Dad.

Same would go for a babysitter in your house. Mom cannot show up, on your time, and demand that the sitter turn the child over to her, just because you are not there, and the sitter is a legal stranger.

ACTUALLY YOU ARE WRONG! NO legal stranger is allowed to interfere with a parent being with their child. That is different than the court stating that they are in contempt. The court would enforce the court order and could slam the parent for picking the child up from the grandparents or refusing to return the child to a grandparent HOWEVER legally a grandparent cannot prevent dad from picking up his child even though mom left the child there. That is parental interference. You are confusing the issues. If Grandma refuses to give dad the child she is guilty of parental interference but if dad takes the child and it is not his time he is guilty of contempt of a court order. THEY ARE TWO SEPARATE ISSUES!

And mom could show up and demand the child from a sitter and if a sitter doens't turn the child over to the person she knows is mom then she can be in trouble for parental interference.
Now if there is a restraining order against the parent that is a different story but Majo you are confusing the issues. And are wrong.

 

[majomom1]

ACTUALLY YOU ARE WRONG! NO legal stranger is allowed to interfere with a parent being with their child. That is different than the court stating that they are in contempt. The court would enforce the court order and could slam the parent for picking the child up from the grandparents or refusing to return the child to a grandparent HOWEVER legally a grandparent cannot prevent dad from picking up his child even though mom left the child there. That is parental interference. You are confusing the issues. If Grandma refuses to give dad the child she is guilty of parental interference but if dad takes the child and it is not his time he is guilty of contempt of a court order. THEY ARE TWO SEPARATE ISSUES!

And mom could show up and demand the child from a sitter and if a sitter doens't turn the child over to the person she knows is mom then she can be in trouble for parental interference.
Now if there is a restraining order against the parent that is a different story but Majo you are confusing the issues. And are wrong.

I stand corrected. I can see where I have confused the issues, but Mom would still be in the wrong (and in contempt) for taking the child from the sitter, right?

 

[Ohiogal]

I stand corrected. I can see where I have confused the issues, but Mom would still be in the wrong (and in contempt) for taking the child from the sitter, right?

Yes mom can be in contempt for taking the child from the sitter. And dad can be in contempt for not leaving the child with grandma -- just like grandma or the sitter would be in trouble for parental interference for not allowing the parent to take the child.