Can I post information for my granddaughters on my website

[Ohiogal]

Much of what you all have said is true. Just frustration on our parts. We have tried everything that we could think of. The last time that my wife called to talk to the girls, one is 12 and the other is 18 but has downs, the 12 year old told her not call anymore because it was harassment. She did not come out with that, we think that she was told to say that by her lesbian mother, the lesbian that lives with her or the girls lawyer. Up until her mother got the girls about a year ago we had a very good relationship with the girls.

I can not get past the lesbian relationship. I graduated from high school in 1958, before everyone in our country started teaching the "except everyone no matter what they are or do". I am old. I grew up with values and standards.
You are right we all share the blame for the disaster in our family. I could have said more when I saw how she was acting with young boys. But her and my son had been married for 10 or 12 years and I would have been accused of interfering, was told that I was and laughed at for my "old" ideas.

My son was not a strong enough father figure, she "wore the pants" as the new wife does and more so.

You know what -- the bolded is why you will NEVER have a relationship with your grandchildren. Values and standards? Being lesbian does not mean you do not have values and standards. As for her being a pedophile as well -- was she convicted? What exactly was she convicted of? Exact charges please. Also your son doesn't want you to have a relationship either. That right there tells me that you have many issues. If the grandchild is telling you to quit calling then quit calling.

 

[Ohiogal]

Sorry I asked the question. You are probably right that using the internet for personal notes is a bad idea and I had no intention of exposing their names, pictures, addresses, etc. And one question that was asked about was a restraining order, there has never been a restraining order.

However, I can not lower the standards that I have lived my life by. I can not bow the people of this level and say "your ok, I'm ok". It will not happen. I should not have expected any of you to understand the situation, because it is my situation. Most families have a "situation" of some sort and outsiders have no way of understanding someone else's problems.

Thanks anyway.

Then you will find that you will have no contact with these children as even if you went to court, a GAL appointed to the case would have issues with your criticisms and putdowns of the children's PARENTS who have not been found unfit. They would not feel it is in the children's best interest to be consistently exposed to someone criticizing the parents the children love.

 

[OldandTired]

Derived from:
Grandparents' Rights to Visitation in Texas

Grandparents' Rights to Visitation in Texas

By Conner & Lindamood, P.C.

May I ask the judge for visitation with my grandchild?
Yes, under certain conditions.

Under what conditions will a judge grant my request for visitation with my grandchild?
The judge may order visitation with the grandchild if:

1. The parental rights of at least one parent have not been terminated;and
2. Visitation with your grandchild is in that grandchild's best interest; and
3. At least on the following is true;

1. Your child (a parent of your grandchild)
2.

Has been incarcerated during the three month period prior to filing the petition;

Or

Has been found to be incompetent; or
Is dead;
3. The parents of your grandchild are divorced or have been living apart for at least three months; or
4. Your grandchild has been abused or neglected by a parent; or
5. Your grandchild has been found by the court to be child in need or supervision;
6. Your child (a parent of your grandchild has had his or her parental rights to your grandchild terminated; or
7. Your grandchild has resided with you for at least six months during the last two years.

Are there any circumstances under which I may not request visitation with my grandchild?
You may not request visitation with your grandchild, if the following circumstances exits:

1. Your child's parental rights have been terminated by court order or death;
2. Your grandchild's other parent's parental rights have been terminated by court order or death;
3. Your grandchild has been adopted by someone other than your grandchild's step-parent.

This is from a few minutes of research, still not guaranteed that it's current or accurate information. Might help though.

Also, in response to the Troxel v. Granville suggestion, you should read this:
http://www.dallas-divorce-lawyer.com/grandparent_child_visitation.htm

 

[LdiJ]

Derived from:
Grandparents' Rights to Visitation in Texas

Grandparents' Rights to Visitation in Texas

By Conner & Lindamood, P.C.

May I ask the judge for visitation with my grandchild?
Yes, under certain conditions.

Under what conditions will a judge grant my request for visitation with my grandchild?
The judge may order visitation with the grandchild if:

1. The parental rights of at least one parent have not been terminated;and
2. Visitation with your grandchild is in that grandchild's best interest; and
3. At least on the following is true;

1. Your child (a parent of your grandchild)
2.

Has been incarcerated during the three month period prior to filing the petition;

Or

Has been found to be incompetent; or
Is dead;
3. The parents of your grandchild are divorced or have been living apart for at least three months; or
4. Your grandchild has been abused or neglected by a parent; or
5. Your grandchild has been found by the court to be child in need or supervision;
6. Your child (a parent of your grandchild has had his or her parental rights to your grandchild terminated; or
7. Your grandchild has resided with you for at least six months during the last two years.

Are there any circumstances under which I may not request visitation with my grandchild?
You may not request visitation with your grandchild, if the following circumstances exits:

1. Your child's parental rights have been terminated by court order or death;
2. Your grandchild's other parent's parental rights have been terminated by court order or death;
3. Your grandchild has been adopted by someone other than your grandchild's step-parent.

This is from a few minutes of research, still not guaranteed that it's current or accurate information. Might help though.

Also, in response to the Troxel v. Granville suggestion, you should read this:
Texas Grandparent Access to a Child

If you will note, what you posted is dated from July of 2000 and the article from the lawyer that you linked to is clearly older as well.

What is relevant in this instance is what case law that has come down since Troxel vs Granville says on the issue of grandparent visitation, and case law in TX is not favorable to grandparents.

I cannot see how a grandparent, who willingly admits that they cannot accept or get past a parent's lesbian lifestyle, could receive any kind of visitation rights with their grandchildren.

What has happened here is obvious. Grandma completely alienated the children's mother during the process of her son's divorce, then completely alienated her son in the process of deciding that their stepmother was an abuser. Grandma expected her family to be able to take custody, and was wrong.

Had grandma remained neutral in their divorce, she would probably not be in the position that she is in now. If grandma would get off her high horse and be a more accepting and tolerant person, she probably also would not be in the position that she is in now. If grandma would try to repair the damage that has been done to her relationship with her son things might get better.

Grandma....I was born in 1957, so my mother is of your generation, and she is the most accepting and tolerant person that I have ever known. My maternal grandmother was just as accepting and tolerant as my mother.

My paternal grandmother however, was alot like you. Guess which grandmother had the better relationship with her grandchildren?

 

[Ohiogal]

If you will note, what you posted is dated from July of 2000 and the article from the lawyer that you linked to is clearly older as well.

What is relevant in this instance is what case law that has come down since Troxel vs Granville says on the issue of grandparent visitation, and case law in TX is not favorable to grandparents.

I cannot see how a grandparent, who willingly admits that they cannot accept or get past a parent's lesbian lifestyle, could receive any kind of visitation rights with their grandchildren.

What has happened here is obvious. Grandma completely alienated the children's mother during the process of her son's divorce, then completely alienated her son in the process of deciding that their stepmother was an abuser. Grandma expected her family to be able to take custody, and was wrong.

Had grandma remained neutral in their divorce, she would probably not be in the position that she is in now. If grandma would get off her high horse and be a more accepting and tolerant person, she probably also would not be in the position that she is in now. If grandma would try to repair the damage that has been done to her relationship with her son things might get better.

Grandma....I was born in 1957, so my mother is of your generation, and she is the most accepting and tolerant person that I have ever known. My maternal grandmother was just as accepting and tolerant as my mother.

My paternal grandmother however, was alot like you. Guess which grandmother had the better relationship with her grandchildren?

Psst... LD, this is grandpa. Not grandma.

 

[Rolacoy]

I am the grandpa, I could see my granddaughters if I would "suck up" to my x-daugher-in-law.

I am not an accepting and tolerant person that liberals like. Lawyers like to write new laws that are more tolerant, that people like better and these new laws get the lawyers reelected. Homosexuals have been crammed down our throat for the last 30 years, more so as time goes on. A ***** is a ***** and I have NO time for them.

I may see the younger one someday, the one who has downs, I may never see. I accept that. There are standards worth dying for, compromise is not something I will not do in this situation.

 

[OldandTired]

It certainly cannot hurt you to talk with a good Family law attorney. What major city are you close to?

 

[Rolacoy]

Hark, I used a politically incorrect work, twice. Oh well.

 

[Gail in Georgia]

Not only are your "standards" NOT worth dying for, your rigid inability to compromise FOR THE SAKE OF SEEING YOUR GRANDCHILDREN ensures you never will.

Gail

 

[>Charlotte<]

My four year old grandson owns my heart. He lives on the other side of the country with my ex-daughter-in-law. Her ass has so many of my lip prints on it we probably share DNA.

Worth. Every. Bit of it.

ETA: Incidentally, I take exception to the word "liberal" being used in this context, because the political opposite of "liberal" is "conservative". I'm a conservative. You're a bigot.

 

[frylover]

I am the grandpa, I could see my granddaughters if I would "suck up" to my x-daugher-in-law.

I am not an accepting and tolerant person that liberals like. Lawyers like to write new laws that are more tolerant, that people like better and these new laws get the lawyers reelected. Homosexuals have been crammed down our throat for the last 30 years, more so as time goes on. A ***** is a ***** and I have NO time for them.

I may see the younger one someday, the one who has downs, I may never see. I accept that. There are standards worth dying for, compromise is not something I will not do in this situation.

If mom would really let you see the kids if you made nice with her and you aren't willing to, then your granddaughters are NOT that important to you. If you wanted to see them that badly, you would be polite and respectful to mom and accept that her lifestyle is what it is...you don't have to approve of it, but it's not hurting you in anyway, except for offending your sensibilities. So, by sticking to your "standards" you are denying yourself a chance to be a grandpa. That's YOUR fault, not moms.

 

[Rolacoy]

I looked up the word "bigot". Not very well defined word, but I fit most it.

bigot
noun
he was denounced as an anti-Catholic bigot chauvinist, partisan, sectarian; racist, sexist, homophobe, dogmatist, jingoist. See note at zealot .

 

[cyjeff]

What it comes down to is this.

Legally, parents have the right to monitor, grant and exclude access to their children. The only way around that is to FORCE access via a court order.

Your chances of this order are slim.

Your reasons for this separation are, quite honestly, immaterial to the law. It does not matter why the parents feel your presence to be toxic to their children... only that they believe it to be true.

If you wish to fight for this access, you will do it with the help of an attorney in a court of law. However, stated prejudices against the parents will not help your case... especially if the court doesn't share those prejudices.

 

[Ohiogal]

I am the grandpa, I could see my granddaughters if I would "suck up" to my x-daugher-in-law.

Or to your son. See you have to realize that the PARENTS have a right to raise their children the way THEY see fit.

I am not an accepting and tolerant person that liberals like.

So you are a bigot and mom and dad have a right to not allow you around their children. And the children can also eventually decide they do not want you around them quite frankly.

Lawyers like to write new laws that are more tolerant, that people like better and these new laws get the lawyers reelected. Homosexuals have been crammed down our throat for the last 30 years, more so as time goes on.

And narrow minded bigotry has been around for far longer. I bet you cried when the south lost the civil war and the 14th Amendment passed.

A ***** is a ***** and I have NO time for them.

And a racist bigot is a racist bigot and I have no time for them.

I may see the younger one someday, the one who has downs, I may never see. I accept that. There are standards worth dying for, compromise is not something I will not do in this situation.

Then you will not have a relationship with your grandchildren. And will most likely die a lonely old man.

 

[Ohiogal]

It certainly cannot hurt you to talk with a good Family law attorney. What major city are you close to?

And a family law attorney will tell him the same thing he has been told here. He has no chance of getting visitation.