christmas bonus??

[ecmst12]

The fact that you don't write in proper sentences and your posts are hard to understand makes that difficult.

Your patient made a donation to your company. The patient wanted it used in a certain way and your employer may or may not intend on using it in that way. That is between the donor/patient and employer. You have nothing to do with it.

 

[wyett717]

Your patient made a donation to your company. The patient wanted it used in a certain way and your employer may or may not intend on using it in that way. That is between the donor/patient and employer. You have nothing to do with it.

It is illegal to take funds from vulnerable adults and misuse them. If the employer told the individuals that the money was going to be used for staff Christmas bonuses, then he needs to do it. If there wasn't a specific agreement to do that, and their money was in fact a donation to the organization, than there is no recourse.

The OP does have something to do with this. If this actually is a case of exploitation, she is a mandated reporter and needs to address it with the proper people. Once a complaint has been made, OP has no longer has anything to do with it, and needs to let the investigation run it's course.

 

[>Charlotte<]

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT??????? DO YOU READ???? WHO SAID IT WAS BETWEEN THE CHARGES AND THE OWNER??

You know, for somebody who can't seem to wipe her own butt without coming here first to ask for legal advice, you're hardly in a position to get snotty with the people that are willing to try to help you.

If you're so sure you're right--fine. Go do what you want. But when you come back here whining about wrongful termination, don't expect a lot of help from anyone you've insulted or alienated.

And it IS between the charges and the owner. If I give $20 to justalayman and tell him to give it to you, but he doesn't give it to you, legally that's my problem, not yours. It's not our fault if you can't understand the concept. If this has anything to do with exploitation or elder abuse, it is certainly something you could--and should--report. But the basis of that complaint is not that you didn't receive any money, the basis is the exploitation itself.

 

[wyett717]

If this has anything to do with exploitation or elder abuse, it is certainly something you could--and should--report. But the basis of that complaint is not that you didn't receive any money, the basis is the exploitation itself.[/QUOTE]

Exactly!!! Well said!

 

[ecmst12]

For all OP knows, the money will be used to pay for a party or lunch for the staff or something similar. That is often the way such donations are fairly distributed to staff, rather then a cash bonus. And OP was not a party to the conversation between the patient and the employer so she doesn't REALLY know what was said.

If there IS exploitation going on, the most likely result of any investigation will be the patient getting his money back. Most companies rightly want to avoid particular patients offering money to staff in this way to avoid any preferential treatment being given to patients who give money. I doubt anything was misappropriated, more likely the employer is trying to find a way to do something nice for staff that won't violate company policy or identify the donor. In NO CASE does OP have any claim on this money and there does appear to be a policy in place which would prevent her from accepting any cash gifts or bonuses from patients directly.

 

[faithnlve]

For all OP knows, the money will be used to pay for a party or lunch for the staff or something similar. That is often the way such donations are fairly distributed to staff, rather then a cash bonus. And OP was not a party to the conversation between the patient and the employer so she doesn't REALLY know what was said.

If there IS exploitation going on, the most likely result of any investigation will be the patient getting his money back. Most companies rightly want to avoid particular patients offering money to staff in this way to avoid any preferential treatment being given to patients who give money. I doubt anything was misappropriated, more likely the employer is trying to find a way to do something nice for staff that won't violate company policy or identify the donor. In NO CASE does OP have any claim on this money and there does appear to be a policy in place which would prevent her from accepting any cash gifts or bonuses from patients directly.

FIRST OF ALL.....We were told not to accept any money from the residents we care for and if we did we were to give it to management. SECONDLY....If you had read what I wrote a letter was written and given to each resident that if they wanted to give a Christmas bonus to send the money to management and it would be dispersed evenly to each care provider and others involved in their daily care. We had our "usual" Christmas party before this letter was sent, AND we had already received our Christmas bonus from our "employer" as well. This letter was mailed to each of them after all this was done, and before Christmas. I am legally mandated to report any abuse or exploitation if I am aware of it...it is state policy. So Wyett thank you...the rest of you need to find some ethics and not lecture someone on what your so called "opinions" are worth. I am looking for an appropriate way to deal with this without "losing" my position. and THIRDLY>>> to all the ones whom have to get soooo snippy and have to find some sort of underlying fault in others...this has absolutely NOTHING to do with the money. I have repeated this...and can only summarize some of you are skipping through and not reading entire posts. don't give advice unless you read and understand what you have read justalayman and ecmst12.

 

[faithnlve]

The fact that you don't write in proper sentences and your posts are hard to understand makes that difficult.

Your patient made a donation to your company. The patient wanted it used in a certain way and your employer may or may not intend on using it in that way. That is between the donor/patient and employer. You have nothing to do with it.

How hard is this to understand??....I wrote: What if your employer receives money from individuals to be used as christmas bonus's towards all the ones whom "care" for them but never disbursed the money? It is now way passed christmas even the new year. Now....if I could type slower for you I would...but I cant...sorry

And to Justalayman**************Please please please quote me where you claim I said this. Justalayman wrote: like I said, you have nothing to do with this. It is an agreement between your charges and your employer.

 

[justalayman]

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT??????? DO YOU READ???? WHO SAID IT WAS BETWEEN THE CHARGES AND THE OWNER?? QUOTE]

YOU DID.

 

[faithnlve]

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT??????? DO YOU READ???? WHO SAID IT WAS BETWEEN THE CHARGES AND THE OWNER?? QUOTE]

YOU DID.

PROVE IT!!! Show me in any of my postings where I said it was between the charges and the owner.

 

[justalayman]

I wrote: What if your employer receives money from individuals to be used as christmas bonus's towards all the ones whom "care" for them but never disbursed the money?

yes you did. That would be an agreement between the one's you care for (your charges) and your employer. Can you tell me where YOU come into the picture?

It is now way passed christmas even the new year. Now....if I could type slower for you I would...but I cant...sorry

The typing is fine. What you need is reading comprehension 101.

And to Justalayman**************Please please please quote me where you claim I said this. Justalayman wrote: like I said, you have nothing to do with this. It is an agreement between your charges and your employer.

Um, directly above this quote in this very post. It starts with "I wrote"

 

[faithnlve]

who set up this situation?

did the employer solicit the funds?


who are the "individuals" and was the money given with the explicit intent of it being disbursed and was there any specific agreement at the time of the gift it be disbursed in any specific manner?



it sounds like your charges gave money to your employer. If so, you have no standing in this matter. It would be between the "individuals" and your employer. If your employer did not act as agreed, the "individuals" would have to be the folks making the commotion and yes, if there was a specific agreement, they would have the continue rights to demand that agreement be followed.

well well well....who made this claim Mr. Thinks he knows what he's talking about?

 

[justalayman]

here is another place:

What if your employer receives money from individuals to be used as christmas bonus's towards all the ones whom "care" for them but never disbursed the money?

and here:

the individuals were people we cared for in a facility the employer owns. the employer sent letters to all residents asking them not to give out individually since it was unfair in his opinion to others involved in their care. So, instead of them giving what they wanted to which ever provider took care of them they send in an amount to the employer in which he claimed he would divide up among all careproviders and others involved in their care.

 

[faithnlve]

here is another place:



and here:

Individuals=residents, I never ever said anything about any of the Charges.

 

[justalayman]

well well well....who made this claim Mr. Thinks he knows what he's talking about?

that's right. I was asking you to clarify and you did.

Let's make this simple;

did your charges give money to your employer?

all that needs is a yes or no.

 

[faithnlve]

No...you show me where I posted THE CHARGES GAVE MONEY... I said that the residents gave money. Charges are other employees besides us careproviders NOT residents. You are not correct in this. Admit it.