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professordad

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It is unfortunate that seemingly vultures like yourselves wish to bully others out of the conversation just because they have a different opinion than you. You do not know the situation of this woman; you do not know the situation of the alleged assault; yet you draw conclusions as if you do.

Women, like yourselves, are indeed the worst bullies, and you have all proven my point. Yet again, thanks! for proving my point! Just because you don't like what I believe? You would censor me. Shame on you!

In watching your responses, you only prove Plato's point as well!

It is not our place to decide this woman's future but the courts. And she has every right to ask for relief and intelligent advice. Yes, by all means go to court, in fact strip him of his parental rights and never allow your child to see the father again. My, what a big person you would be! For just as the quote states: it's the beginning you make of the end; and there is no reason to believe that your child's father cannot make a good beginning to his end with his child. You have your undergrad and now going for your masters, very good indeed! Seemingly, the vultures have neither of these.

And don't forget, it's the father that is most important in a child's life and NOT the mother.

Again, I prove my point. Thanks!
 

Proserpina

Senior Member
It is unfortunate that seemingly vultures like yourselves wish to bully others out of the conversation just because they have a different opinion than you. You do not know the situation of this woman; you do not know the situation of the alleged assault; yet you draw conclusions as if you do.

Women, like yourselves, are indeed the worst bullies, and you have all proven my point. Yet again, thanks! for proving my point! Just because you don't like what I believe? You would censor me. Shame on you!

In watching your responses, you only prove Plato's point as well!

It is not our place to decide this woman's future but the courts. And she has every right to ask for relief and intelligent advice. Yes, by all means go to court, in fact strip him of his parental rights and never allow your child to see the father again. My, what a big person you would be! For just as the quote states: it's the beginning you make of the end; and there is no reason to believe that your child's father cannot make a good beginning to his end with his child. You have your undergrad and now going for your masters, very good indeed! Seemingly, the vultures have neither of these.

And don't forget, it's the father that is most important in a child's life and NOT the mother.

Again, I prove my point. Thanks!

You stated something as fact. If you wish to continue posting here, you will be expected to back up such statements. You have not done so.

Why is that?
 

tornado88

Member
"And don't forget, it's the father that is most important in a child's life and NOT the mother"

You have got to be kidding!!! And here I was under the impression that both parents were considered equal in importance in the life of their child. You have some serious problems if you really believe that. Is this the male equivelant of the Golden Uterus Syndrome?
 

Proserpina

Senior Member
"And don't forget, it's the father that is most important in a child's life and NOT the mother"

You have got to be kidding!!! And here I was under the impression that both parents were considered equal in importance in the life of their child. You have some serious problems if you really believe that. Is this the male equivelant of the Golden Uterus Syndrome?
*whisper*

It's called the "Overcompensating Syndrome".

Jes' sayin'.
 

Banned_Princess

Senior Member
And don't forget, it's the father that is most important in a child's life and NOT the mother.

I don't want to encourage you at all but this is the dumbest thing I have heard in weeks. (alot of what you have said, tries to appear smart, but it isn't, it actually sounds ridiculously argumentative)

If the father is most important, how do you explain the success of our current president? or how about the millions of kids that don't have fathers that end up fine?

Mothers are ABSOLUTELY more important then fathers, for the most obvious reason of the child would not exist without the mother.

dads are important, but a dad is more then a man who knocked the woman up, and I have to say, a man who beats a pregnant woman, and receives a sentence of 10 years, is in no way more important (or even slightly important)then a mother trying to save her children from such abuse.
 

WittyUserName

Senior Member
Bottom line:

TITLE 32
DOMESTIC RELATIONS
CHAPTER 7
DIVORCE ACTIONS
32-717. CUSTODY OF CHILDREN -- BEST INTEREST. (1) In an action for
divorce the court may, before and after judgment, give such direction for the
custody, care and education of the children of the marriage as may seem
necessary or proper in the best interests of the children. The court shall
consider all relevant factors which may include:
(a) The wishes of the child's parent or parents as to his or her custody;
(b) The wishes of the child as to his or her custodian;
(c) The interaction and interrelationship of the child with his or her
parent or parents, and his or her siblings;
(d) The child's adjustment to his or her home, school, and community;
(e) The character and circumstances of all individuals involved;
(f) The need to promote continuity and stability in the life of the
child; and
(g) Domestic violence as defined in section 39-6303, Idaho Code, whether
or not in the presence of the child.


And further:

TITLE 39
HEALTH AND SAFETY
CHAPTER 63
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CRIME PREVENTION
39-6303. DEFINITIONS. (1) "Domestic violence" means the physical injury,
sexual abuse or forced imprisonment or threat thereof of a family or household
member, or of a minor child by a person with whom the minor child has had or
is having a dating relationship, or of an adult by a person with whom the
adult has had or is having a dating relationship.

In Idaho, Dad has very little chance of getting even joint custody.

And has already been pointed out, Mom cannot strip Dad's parental rights completely. Just wanted to reiterate that since ProfDad mentioned she could have his rights revoked after six months. That is NOT accurate according to ID code.
 
You do not know the situation of this woman; you do not know the situation of the alleged assault; yet you draw conclusions as if you do.
I'm going out on a limb here...you're a.) not the OP b.) not the ex of the OP c.) beaten pregnant ex girlfriend of the ex of the OP d.) not a personal friend and/or family member of any of the above....so anything you say is a conclusion you drew just like everyone else. :rolleyes:


And don't forget, it's the father that is most important in a child's life and NOT the mother.
Really then why do so many children of deadbeat FATHERS flourish???? or is that because their mom's were secretly men???:D
 

LdiJ

Senior Member
Even if you have sole custody, I do not believe you can move out of state without it being specifically in the Order.
That is completely incorrect, legally. This is a legal site. If you want to continue to post here your answers must be legally correct.

Also, what kind of woman would want to strip their child's father of his parental rights? Even if he is in prison, they are still his children. And yes, if he hasn't paid child support for more than six months, you actually can have his parental rights revoked. But again, what kind of message are you sending to your children??????????
Perhaps the message that its not ok to be violent?...to beat a pregnant woman?
 

ecmst12

Senior Member
It is obviously BEST for children to be raised by both of their parents, either together or separately. But children are not delicate flowers, they are tough and adaptive and they can thrive in ANY environment where they are loved. If dad is violent, then it may indeed be better for child to NOT have a relationship with him. That is a tough call to make, however in this case, it's completely unnecessary - dad is IN PRISON. Child will be 18 before he gets out. Mom can notify the court of her new address just to comply with the orders, but it shouldn't require a hearing or a lawyer. It's very rare that anyone on this forum would agree with keeping a child away from either of his parents, but in this case, the criminal justice system has made that decision for everyone.

But it's a dangerous statement to say that EITHER parent is naturally "more important" then the other. There are plenty of deadbeat moms out there, drug users, abusers, moms who have sold their children into prostitution.....so who cares if they carried the child and give birth to him? That part is such a little tiny part of motherhood, it almost shouldn't count at all, given all the wonderful ADOPTIVE moms out there. Anyone who loves a child, and who the child loves in return, is important to that child and makes his life better. Get it?
 

LdiJ

Senior Member
It is unfortunate that seemingly vultures like yourselves wish to bully others out of the conversation just because they have a different opinion than you. You do not know the situation of this woman; you do not know the situation of the alleged assault; yet you draw conclusions as if you do.
We do not need to draw conclusions. The man who beat the pregnant woman is in prison until 2014...and apparently has been there for a while prior to now. The courts have already drawn the conclusions for us.

Women, like yourselves, are indeed the worst bullies, and you have all proven my point. Yet again, thanks! for proving my point! Just because you don't like what I believe? You would censor me. Shame on you!
You have stated your personal opinion as legal fact. That is why you are getting slammed....well, that and the fact that you seem to think its ok to beat pregnant women.

In watching your responses, you only prove Plato's point as well!

It is not our place to decide this woman's future but the courts. And she has every right to ask for relief and intelligent advice. Yes, by all means go to court, in fact strip him of his parental rights and never allow your child to see the father again. My, what a big person you would be! For just as the quote states: it's the beginning you make of the end; and there is no reason to believe that your child's father cannot make a good beginning to his end with his child. You have your undergrad and now going for your masters, very good indeed! Seemingly, the vultures have neither of these.
Any parent who is violent enough to beat a pregnant woman...and again, its proven, he is in PRISON, does not deserve to be around children.

And don't forget, it's the father that is most important in a child's life and NOT the mother.
Ok, now I have to agree with the others. That is the most ridiculous statement I have ever seen someone make on these forums.

Again, I prove my point. Thanks!
If your point is that you have absolutely no clue, then yes, you have made it.
 

LdiJ

Senior Member
It is obviously BEST for children to be raised by both of their parents, either together or separately. But children are not delicate flowers, they are tough and adaptive and they can thrive in ANY environment where they are loved. If dad is violent, then it may indeed be better for child to NOT have a relationship with him. That is a tough call to make, however in this case, it's completely unnecessary - dad is IN PRISON. Child will be 18 before he gets out. Mom can notify the court of her new address just to comply with the orders, but it shouldn't require a hearing or a lawyer. It's very rare that anyone on this forum would agree with keeping a child away from either of his parents, but in this case, the criminal justice system has made that decision for everyone.
There are three children, only one will be 18 before he gets out. The other two will be teens, but still minors. The youngest will be 14-15.

But it's a dangerous statement to say that EITHER parent is naturally "more important" then the other. There are plenty of deadbeat moms out there, drug users, abusers, moms who have sold their children into prostitution.....so who cares if they carried the child and give birth to him? That part is such a little tiny part of motherhood, it almost shouldn't count at all, given all the wonderful ADOPTIVE moms out there. Anyone who loves a child, and who the child loves in return, is important to that child and makes his life better. Get it?
I honestly cannot agree that anyone who loves a child automatically makes their life better. There are lots of truly bad and toxic people who love and are loved by children. However I do agree that its a dangerous statement to say that either parent is naturally more important.
 
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