Selling a Bass Guitar, but might not be legal

[Zigner]

ok, so for me the problem would arise if I tried to sell this bass and it really does belong to Anhueser(sp?) Busch right? I guess in that case even trading the bass (even trading to me by the other guy) wouldn't be legal either.

Using your iPod example, if you're buddy that you loaned your iPod to then traded it for something of value to another person. You technically still own the iPod even though the other person gave up something of value to get it. In this case, I gave a 6-string bass worth ~$700!!

I emailed Fender to see what they could tell me about the bass.

My iPod example was ONLY posted to show the other poster the error in his ways. I have a gut feeling (total guess) that you would have no problems selling, trading, or otherwise disposing of this guitar in any manner you see fit.

Why don't you call the beer folks and ask them?

 

[swalsh411]

Again, YOU stated that the beer folks DON'T own the guitar. I didn't say that, YOU did. Whether they make a claim to it or not, they may still own it. So, your wild claim is that they don't own it unless they lay claim to it. That is an absurd claim to make without more facts.

For example. Let's say that I own an iPod and I loan it to me friend. It's very clearly LOANED to them. Are you saying that I don't own the iPod unless I make a claim to it?

Again - just stop.

I stated that one cannot prove a claim that something doesn't exist. This is basic logic 101. Are you familiar with the subject or do you need a refresher?

If you can show that Bud Light owns a claim to this guitar then please do so. Otherwise they don't. How much more basic do you need? Show that Bud Light has a claim or stop shouting that they do!

In your example your proof of the iPod would be the receipt that you bought it and the very clear fact that you owned it prior to loaning it your friend. None of that is in any way relevant to the OP's question. Stop muddling the question.

 

[swalsh411]

I have a gut feeling (total guess)them?

Oh ok your "gut feeling". Do you have any actual evidence?

 

[Zigner]

If you can show that Bud Light owns a claim to this guitar then please do so. Otherwise they don't.

So, if *I* can't show that the beer folks have a claim to the guitar, then they don't? Really?

 

[Zigner]

Oh ok your "gut feeling". Do you have any actual evidence?

I posted a clear disclaimer...unlike your lunacy.

 

[progrmr]

My iPod example was ONLY posted to show the other poster the error in his ways. I have a gut feeling (total guess) that you would have no problems selling, trading, or otherwise disposing of this guitar in any manner you see fit.

Why don't you call the beer folks and ask them?

I'm pretty sure it would take me about 5 days to get on the phone with someone that could answer a legal question about this bass. Might be fun to call the 800-dial-bud though and make them work to give me an answer

I'm going to wait and see what Fender customer relations says. Shot them an email. I be sure to post up whatever they say.

 

[swalsh411]

I posted a clear disclaimer...unlike your lunacy.

My "lunacy" is that one cannot prove something doesn't exist. Are you really trying to argue with this?

 

[Zigner]

My "lunacy" is that one cannot prove something doesn't exist. Are you really trying to argue with this?

No, your lunacy is saying that, while simultaneously saying that if *I* can't prove it, it doesn't exist.

 

[swalsh411]

No, your lunacy is saying that, while simultaneously saying that if *I* can't prove it, it doesn't exist.

Right. Show the law exists, or it doesn't. The choice is yours.

 

[Zigner]

Right. Show the law exists, or it doesn't. The choice is yours.

Huh? Are you sure you're posting on the right thread?

The issue at hand is whether the beer folks have a valid claim of ownership of the guitar. Or, did you forget?

 

[swalsh411]

The issue at hand is whether the beer folks have a valid claim of ownership of the guitar.

Allright. So what's their claim on the guitar?

 

[Zigner]

Allright. So what's their claim on the guitar?

I don't know...but that doesn't mean that one doesn't exist. However, one cannot state definitively that it either exists or not. THAT has been my argument against your matter-of-fact statement that one does NOT exist all along.

 

[swalsh411]

I don't know...but that doesn't mean that one doesn't exist. However, one cannot state definitively that it either exists or not. THAT has been my argument against your matter-of-fact statement that one does NOT exist all along.

So then your position should be more correctly stated as "I am not aware of any claim that Bud Light would have against this guitar." So now you are I are both in agreement as to the OP's original question.

 

[JustAPal00]

I don't understand why you think you would be unable to sell this property unless it was acquired via fraud or theft. (which according to your post it was not). Bud Light does not own these guitars any more than McDonalds owns the Avatar drink cup that came with my Big Mac value meal. You're worrying about nothing.

It is common practice in this industry for distributors of alcohol to "lend" promotional merchandise to its customers. Neon signs, pool tables, lights, reach in refrigerators, and other branded merchandise is to be used by these customers but not sold for profit. That merchandise is supposed to be returned upon termination of their working relationship. Since many of these working relationships go on for many years, much of the merchandise is forgotten about. The ownership however still remains with the distributor. It would be illegal for anyone to sell something that would fall under this category.

 

[Zigner]

So then your position should be more correctly stated as "I am not aware of any claim that Bud Light would have against this guitar." So now you are I are both in agreement as to the OP's original question.

It's YOUR position that needs to be restated. But, if it makes you happy...sure. You really are dense.