Can school give student cleaning detention?

[Antigone*]

Update: Talked to lawyer who told me that yes there is technically no law that prohibits school from giving cleaning punishment, however school is responsible for any physical/mental damage that results from performing the task being that student is not trained to do them. I stopped by school and talked to school official, and told them that i don't approve of my child doing any type of manual labor and that my child will not be doing the assigned detention. I was that is fine and they will give my child regular detention, 1/2 hours before school and 1/2 hour after school. Which is fine by me.

It's the job of the janitors to clean and not the students. What is next, having student clean classroom at the end of the school day?

@PQN, yes seriously as legal guardian of the child you have a say till they are 18 unless court sentences them.

@swrdmbo, exactly most they can do is prevent you from graduating, however i was told that a child can switch school and as long as they have enough credit they can graduate from that school. A school can't legally require you to do detention but yes they can withhold your diploma.

You go random...set that example

 

[cyjeff]

Update: Talked to lawyer who told me that yes there is technically no law that prohibits school from giving cleaning punishment, however school is responsible for any physical/mental damage that results from performing the task being that student is not trained to do them.

First, if they haven't been trained which end of a mop to hold, I sincerely hope they have a HUGE trust fund... because you are not giving them the skills they need to live.

Second, are you willing to be equally responsible for the physical/mental damage to the facilities and personnel your lil darling caused?

My wife is a school teacher. Believe me, if she could start a tab on some of the kids....

I stopped by school and talked to school official, and told them that i don't approve of my child doing any type of manual labor and that my child will not be doing the assigned detention. I was that is fine and they will give my child regular detention, 1/2 hours before school and 1/2 hour after school. Which is fine by me.

Goody.

So junior learned two lessons.

One, daddy will forever keep him from suffering any punishment.
Two, sitting in a room is a punishment.

Our only hope is that some of the other kids that had to clean hear about it and teach your son the lesson you won't....

No, I am not saying with physical violence... I am hoping that they treat him like the cream puff you are turning him into.

It's the job of the janitors to clean and not the students. What is next, having student clean classroom at the end of the school day?

Um, why not? After all, the students MADE the mess, didn't they?

That is a concept known as "personal responsibility."

@PQN, yes seriously as legal guardian of the child you have a say till they are 18 unless court sentences them.

To a point, yes.

@swrdmbo, exactly most they can do is prevent you from graduating, however i was told that a child can switch school and as long as they have enough credit they can graduate from that school. A school can't legally require you to do detention but yes they can withhold your diploma.

Switching schools will not cancel this out.

Ever hear of the oft threatened "permanent record"?

 

[cyjeff]

You go random...set that example

Later, when junior gets dad committed so that he can tap into his inheritance early, dad will be back wondering why his kid feels he doesn't owe anyone anything.

By the way, you never said what your little angel did

 

[randomguy]

Later, when junior gets dad committed so that he can tap into his inheritance early, dad will be back wondering why his kid feels he doesn't owe anyone anything.

By the way, you never said what your little angel did

Her phone went off during the class

 

[Proserpina]

Her phone went off during the class

She shouldn't have even had the phone ON during class.

 

[Silverplum]

Her phone went off during the class

Note the utter lack of responsibility, except for the poor phone. IT "went off during class." That's what IT did. All by ITself.

Principessa is not to be held responsible for bringing a phone to class, against the rules.

Principessa is not to be held responsible for the not-turned-off phone "(going) off" in class, against the rules.

Principessa is not to dirty her dainty self with any work.

Okey-dokey.

 

[Antigone*]

Note the utter lack of responsibility, except for the poor phone. IT "went off during class." That's what IT did. All by ITself.

Principessa is not to be held responsible for bringing a phone to class, against the rules.

Principessa is not to be held responsible for the not-turned-off phone "(going) off" in class, against the rules.

Principessa is not to dirty her dainty self with any work.

Okey-dokey.

I don't know why Daddy didn't hire the maid to do princessa's detention

 

[Proserpina]

I don't know why Daddy didn't hire the maid to do princessa's detention

I don't know why Princessa didn't have her damn phone turned off at school.

Come on - that's just ridiculous!

 

[cyjeff]

As you can tell, you aren't going to get a lot of sympathy here.

hell, my dad used to make me clean out a horse barn.

Cleaning never hurt anyone... and certainly didn't traumatize them for life.

Jeez... give it a break.

Princess will, at some point, have to get her hands dirty.... when is the maid's day off or do you have a sub?

 

[CdwJava]

My son's phone went off in class a couple months back. He got his phone taken away. We were notified that the Assistant Principal had it and we could come and get it any time. We said, "Hold on to it." He was also assigned to clean up duty at lunch for one afternoon later in the week.

I retrieved the phone later in the afternoon of the incident, but did not tell my son. We held it for a week before returning it to him with the proviso that there had best be NO activity on it during school hours (and I can monitor this on-line).

In a weird way, I appreciate parents who shield their children from the consequences of their actions. We in law enforcement refer to it as, "job security." People who never learn that their actions can have negative and unpleasant consequences very often become frequent fliers in the justice system. Or, if they manage to avoid the justice system, they can be come pariahs and outcasts as a result of their own arrogance and self-importance.

In short, minor inconveniences in the form of consequences are what helps build character and a sense of right and wrong. Character building is at least as important as building the intellect.

 

[Country Living]

Update: Talked to lawyer who told me that yes there is technically no law that prohibits school from giving cleaning punishment, however school is responsible for any physical/mental damage that results from performing the task being that student is not trained to do them. I stopped by school and talked to school official, and told them that i don't approve of my child doing any type of manual labor and that my child will not be doing the assigned detention. I was that is fine and they will give my child regular detention, 1/2 hours before school and 1/2 hour after school. Which is fine by me.

It's the job of the janitors to clean and not the students. What is next, having student clean classroom at the end of the school day?

@PQN, yes seriously as legal guardian of the child you have a say till they are 18 unless court sentences them.

@swrdmbo, exactly most they can do is prevent you from graduating, however i was told that a child can switch school and as long as they have enough credit they can graduate from that school. A school can't legally require you to do detention but yes they can withhold your diploma.

Your little princess may very well have to learn which end of the mop is up if you keep bailing her out from breaking rules. You'll be back here in a few years whining about how your daughter doesn't respect you, steals from you, how the police are out to get her, your car insurance has been non-renewed because of her driving record, she is a meth-head / pot-head / drunk and none of this is her fault. Her college fund may turn out to be a lawyer fund.

I don't know why Daddy didn't hire the maid to do princessa's detention

You get the Gold Star on the Forehead for the best one-liner. <splat>

 

[Antigone*]

Your little princess may very well have to learn which end of the mop is up if you keep bailing her out from breaking rules. You'll be back here in a few years whining about how your daughter doesn't respect you, steals from you, how the police are out to get her, your car insurance has been non-renewed because of her driving record, she is a meth-head / pot-head / drunk and none of this is her fault. Her college fund may turn out to be a lawyer fund.




You get the Gold Star on the Forehead for the best one-liner. <splat>

That was a whopper

 

[Zigner]

I used to LOVE cleaning the erasers after class...

 

[Country Living]

I used to LOVE cleaning the erasers after class...

Yeah... but, you were supposed to smack them against other erasers, not other students.

 

[cbg]

Hey, CL, wasn't me on the trash-picking-up, but I'll accept thanks on swrdmbo's behalf.

Randomguy and his little Principessa are going to be hit with a really rude shock one of these days. He may have managed to shield her from that horrid cleaning rag this time, but one of these days he's going to be quite sure that some nasty bureaucracy or person can't make his little darling do something - and he's going to be dead wrong.

He'll be back here again whining that they can't DO that to her; and I'm going to be laughing in his face. Who's with me?