Can school give student cleaning detention?

[cbg]

Here's hoping she comes in contact with my husband, who teaches at the college level.

On the first day of class, he hands out a written set of instructions, telling them exactly when each assignment for the entire semester is due; the dates of the exams, what is required to pass the class, how he grades, and what will happen if they do not come to class or turn in work late.

I can't tell you how many times one of his students will complaint that "he never TOLD them" that they couldn't turn in their work late without penalty, or that if they missed more than x classes they would see their grade lowered. But it's all right there on the page.

And don't even imagine that the Dean won't back him to the hilt.

 

[Country Living]

Here's hoping she comes in contact with my husband, who teaches at the college level.

On the first day of class, he hands out a written set of instructions, telling them exactly when each assignment for the entire semester is due; the dates of the exams, what is required to pass the class, how he grades, and what will happen if they do not come to class or turn in work late.

I can't tell you how many times one of his students will complaint that "he never TOLD them" that they couldn't turn in their work late without penalty, or that if they missed more than x classes they would see their grade lowered. But it's all right there on the page.

And don't even imagine that the Dean won't back him to the hilt.

You just can't ask the little princess to perform under such stressful conditions! Maybe the maid will attend classes for her.

 

[frylover]

You just can't ask the little princess to perform under such stressful conditions! Maybe the maid will attend classes for her.

Alas, the maid has been fired so dad can foot the bill for an attorney to fight it all the way to the Supreme Court if anyone crosses princess!

 

[cbg]

As soon as I saw this thread on the M a r t i ndale-Hubbell website I thought of our poster here:

I GOT FIRED - Lawyers.com Community

 

[TinkerBelleLuvr]

Will be interesting when kiddo goes to college. I taught at the college level. I remember having a parent call to talk to me about their child's grade. Guess what! That child was an adult. I could not LEGALLY discuss ANYTHING about that child. Nope. That child totally screwed up and didn't turn in their term paper. Guess what grade they got?

 

[Isis1]

Will be interesting when kiddo goes to college. I taught at the college level. I remember having a parent call to talk to me about their child's grade. Guess what! That child was an adult. I could not LEGALLY discuss ANYTHING about that child. Nope. That child totally screwed up and didn't turn in their term paper. Guess what grade they got?

dude. that was so not cool. that is just plain embarrassing. really. i can't even remember the last time my mom called anyone one in my defense. ever.

 

[Country Living]

There was an interesting study done not too long ago on "school discipline" court cases.

The School Rights Project data showed that, where school cases once centered on protecting the rights of the less-advantaged as a group or on free speech rights of students, today's school-related cases are brought more often by the "privileged," to promote their own, and their children's own, interests. These students of privilege are twice as likely as their less-advantaged peers to seek a legal remedy for what they perceive is an "unfair" treatment of themselves as an individual.

Quincy, I've been thinking about this case study. I may not phrase this correctly - please bear with me.

A long time ago there was an almost derogatory term, "nouveau riche", used for that category of people (usually of a lower class) who came into money. They were shunned socially simply because they didn't have the skills or the contacts to integrate into wealthy society.

Today's society seems to have an influx of "faux riche" - that group of people who think their monetary and perceived social status entitles them to be exempt from social norms and rules. When in reality, their wealth is not net wealth, it's debt driven.

Don't you think this new type of people are more likely to sue just to show they have power?

 

[The_Non-Mom]

Geez, I hope OP's princess doesn't end up like some of the other princess's of society.

Paris Hilton - sex tape and drugs
Nicole Ritchie - children out of wedlock and drugs
Casey Johnson - dead

 

[randomguy]

Ops she did it again

My daughter phone went off again but with very different end result for her. I wasn't able to answer the phone so they called my wife which was in pissed mood because project didn't go as expected at work. Needless to say, daughter got 2 days of lunch duty detention (wife insisted she get make up for the previous one that i got her out) and also day with janitor after school. The best part is i am under order from the wife to do nothing about it.

Lesson learned for daughter: If you get in trouble make sure it's not on the day that mom is very pissed and dad is busy.

While i am not happy with the decision of my wife, we have an agreement that one backs up each other. So basically i can do nothing.

 

[Antigone*]

Well randomguy, you married a wise woman . She is handling the situation appropriately. Take a lesson.

Princess will have to learn one way or the other

 

[justalayman]

Well randomguy, you married a wise woman . She is handling the situation appropriately. Take a lesson.

Princess will have to learn one way or the other

Nah, now she is going to be pissed at mom and think dad is the greatest thing since sliced bread (which came about in 1928, in case you wanted to know, so there have been a lot of great things since sliced bread). She will grow to despise, if not actually hate mom while dad distorts kiddos sense of reality forever warping her.
sounds like a pretty sick relationship actually.

 

[CdwJava]

My daughter phone went off again but with very different end result for her. I wasn't able to answer the phone so they called my wife which was in pissed mood because project didn't go as expected at work. Needless to say, daughter got 2 days of lunch duty detention (wife insisted she get make up for the previous one that i got her out) and also day with janitor after school. The best part is i am under order from the wife to do nothing about it.

Lesson learned for daughter: If you get in trouble make sure it's not on the day that mom is very pissed and dad is busy.

While i am not happy with the decision of my wife, we have an agreement that one backs up each other. So basically i can do nothing.

I think many of us live under the same arrangement.

Hopefully you will come to understand the logic in such a decision.

Good luck, and all the best for you and your daughter. With luck, she will learn from this little streak of bad luck that punishments can happen.

 

[quincy]

I am glad you unlocked your thread, randomguy, to inform us of your wife's wise action. Your daughter is sure to benefit from the lunch duty detention.

Richard Arum, one of the author's of the School Rights Project I mentioned earlier, noted that students of privilege often expect entitlements even in minor disciplinary actions at school. Arum's research showed that the students who "perceive school discipline as unfair are more likely to disobey teachers, disrupt classroom instruction, and in general fail to develop behaviors conducive to educational success and related positive outcomes." (sound familiar, Country Living )

I think you can tell, from all of the comments you received here , that your stepping in to argue the school's disciplinary action for your daughter was not considered by any of us to be what was best for your daughter. I hope you and your wife continue to support each other, and the decisions made by the school, to see that your daughter learns that all of her actions will have consequences, and she will be responsible for them (both the good and the bad).

Good luck.

 

[Country Living]

My daughter phone went off again but with very different end result for her. I wasn't able to answer the phone so they called my wife which was in pissed mood because project didn't go as expected at work. Needless to say, daughter got 2 days of lunch duty detention (wife insisted she get make up for the previous one that i got her out) and also day with janitor after school. The best part is i am under order from the wife to do nothing about it.

Lesson learned for daughter: If you get in trouble make sure it's not on the day that mom is very pissed and dad is busy.

While i am not happy with the decision of my wife, we have an agreement that one backs up each other. So basically i can do nothing.

Good for mom! Lesson learned for daughter: she'll have respect for mom and run all over you.

 

[cbg]

Thank goodness at least one of this poor kid's parents has a gram of common sense. Way to go, Mom!