Grandparent's behavior

[Mamax2]

So, can I ask, is grandpa is driving to the sheriff's office with the child? And is he really drunk? Just thinking how ballsy that is to be drunk, driving a kid to the sheriff's office and exchanging there and going. If he is indeed drunk. (not implying he hasn't been drinking, but rather the legal definition of drunk). I actually kind of understand why you told grandpa about not giving her back unless her mom contacts you there - you felt if he went after you, what a better place to be protected and have witnesses. BUT, as you can see, it isn't just about your protection, but her's as well. She probably sees so much more than she even verbalizes to you, but seeing you two fight doesn't help her. Honestly, this sounds like a situation that's going to get worse before it gets any better. I'm not a lawyer, but doesn't grandpa pushing dad give some merit to looking at some protective order? Not certain how that would help your kiddo though.

As for his suing you, tell him to go ahead and try it. Then ask for lawyer fees and I'd even go so far as reimbursement for work missed in defending a frivolous suit.

And like I said, I'm not a lawyer, and I'm hoping a senior can answer this, but why couldn't dad sue the grandparents for third party interference with visitation?? Why would his attorney worried about a visitation interference against dad from the grandparents if they don't have custody or guardianship? And am I missing something, or why does he have to give kiddo to the grandparents at all? If mom isn't there, then he doesn't have to exchange kiddo, right? (Like I said, I could be missing something).

Sorry, I tend to think out loud... it annoys all the other voices in my head too much to keep it all in there. lol

 

[stealth2]

And knowing that, you still CHOSE to have a confrontation with him in the parking lot.

You're not winning points.

I'm still gobsmacked that, knowing all this, he still CHOSE to have a child with a member of this family. I know, I know.... he didn't KNOW it until after sowing his seed.

 

[rbw5147]

Mom has been ticketed for breaking the visitation order several times. Mom is living with a violent offender, who has been investigated for violence against OP's daughter. This would be documented by the courts and CPS.


Mother has repeatedly left her daughter at her parent's home, then changes her mind and has the child removed from the home by the Sherrif's Dept., which has to be EXTREMELY traumatizing to this child. Mother has not legally given custody of daughter to her parents. Grandfather's bad behavior has been witnessed by the police at visitation exchanges.


Dad lived with the child for the first 2 years of her life and these things have been going on for the last year, as child is 3. Dad HAS filed for a change in custody.


Could the father have handled the situation at the last visitation better? Yes, but it doesn't sound like he really participated in the bad behavior and did make some attempt to shield his daughter from what was going on. He followed his attorney's advice. It doesn't sound like the best advice, but can't anybody else understand why he might have done that? Unless you are somebody that is really knowledgable on these things, I think most people would assume that their attorney knows best. Hopefully, he will question things in the future.


Wouldn't it be irresponsible parenting if Dad DID return the child to the grandparents? With all the documentation that must exist, seems as if Dad should absolutely keep his child with him. Would anybody else actually return their child to these grandparents??

 

[Mamax2]

I'm still gobsmacked that, knowing all this, he still CHOSE to have a child with a member of this family. I know, I know.... he didn't KNOW it until after sowing his seed.

Ya know, I hate to say this, cause yes, I agree that knowing someone family is very telling of how they will be, but there are exceptions to every rule, and sometimes you think you married/are committed to that one.

Then you wake up in a nightmare...


If only we all knew then what we do now.

 

[CJane]

Wouldn't it be irresponsible parenting if Dad DID return the child to the grandparents? With all the documentation that must exist, seems as if Dad should absolutely keep his child with him. Would anybody else actually return their child to these grandparents??

Not a single one of us has suggested returning the child to the grandparents in this thread.

There's quite a distance between returning the child to the grandparents and confronting those same grandparents with the child in tow.

 

[rbw5147]

I wasn't insinuating that anybody on this thread did suggest that.

I was simply asking if anybody would.

 

[cheesecake46580]

I do not agree at all that a child call any one but the bio mom and dad mom and dad. That is just wrong my daughter calls her step dad Daddy X(his real name) But the phrase Mom and Dad are for the Bio. We came up with the Daddy X when she wanted to start calling him Daddy and we kept correcting her until she stated Daddy X instead. Makes me very mad when people do that it is more for them than the child you should always do right by your child.

 

[Ohiogal]

I do not agree at all that a child call any one but the bio mom and dad mom and dad. That is just wrong my daughter calls her step dad Daddy X(his real name) But the phrase Mom and Dad are for the Bio. We came up with the Daddy X when she wanted to start calling him Daddy and we kept correcting her until she stated Daddy X instead. Makes me very mad when people do that it is more for them than the child you should always do right by your child.

This OP does not agree however. This OP has actually stated what I quoted in a post on this thread regarding it.

 

[7kids2parents]

This OP does not agree however. This OP has actually stated what I quoted in a post on this thread regarding it.

I have never suggested that any child call anyone other than their biological mother and father, mom and dad. All I said is that being a parent involves the activities that your child is involved in. I don't know where you got that. Maybe you should check your reading comp.