Imputing income

[californiamom3]

What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? CA
When an income is imputed, do they also factor in the expenses paid out if that person worked? (child care, fuel, uniforms,etc.)

 

[CourtClerk]

Nope**************...

 

[nextwife]

Does the other parent get to deduct THEIR fuel and cost of clothes for work? Virtually EVERYONE who works incurs expenses to get there and to not show up naked. Uniforms are LESS costly than needing a wardrobe of suits, pantyhose and pumps, like I used to need.

 

[CourtClerk]

Does the other parent get to deduct THEIR fuel and cost of clothes for work? Virtually EVERYONE who works incurs expenses to get there and to not show up naked. Uniforms are LESS costly than needing a wardrobe of suits, pantyhose and pumps, like I used to need.

Stop going off on tangents. Some people DO get to deduct the cost uniforms for work, and yes, some of them are more expensive than your clothes (and who wears pantyhose anymore ANYWAY??? ). Depends on where you shop.

 

[nextwife]

Stop going off on tangents. Some people DO get to deduct the cost uniforms for work, and yes, some of them are more expensive than your clothes (and who wears pantyhose anymore ANYWAY??? ). Depends on where you shop.

Bare legs in WI in the winter? C'mon!

 

[californiamom3]

So to make sure I understand correctly, a person who has been imputed an income, would have to return to court after child care costs and other expenses have incurred... to modify child support?

 

[CourtClerk]

Bare legs in WI in the winter? C'mon!

The OP is in CA, not WI... and who cares about YOUR wardrobe anyway? This thread isn't about you.

 

[CourtClerk]

So to make sure I understand correctly, a person who has been imputed an income, would have to return to court after child care costs and other expenses have incurred... to modify child support?

You aren't getting a credit for childcare or "other expenses" (whatever those are) for someone else's children. You work for your boyfriend and I believe do freelance photography or something like that if IIRC, you don't need uniforms.

 

[californiamom3]

You aren't getting a credit for childcare or "other expenses" (whatever those are) for someone else's children. You work for your boyfriend and I believe do freelance photography or something like that if IIRC, you don't need uniforms.

Were talking about my 3 children. Not someone else s.
I don't have an issue with things changing here. I don't have an issue with being imputed an income. I have been an at home with my kids for many years and it's due time.
The photography business has not been lucrative enough to keep it gong and the BF can indeed do the work I do, on his own. For that matter I could still pay the bills for the business even if I work full time. No big deal.
I will be delving into the work world based on no formal education and having not worked (officially) for 13 or more years. (Yep, should have been doing some schooling during that time. I know)
Now is now.
So once my income is imputed, I go to work and acquire child care for my youngest, I will have to return to court to factor in the cost of child care?
As far as uniforms and "other costs" I see clearly on "Income and Expense Declaration" spots for things like laundry, cleaning, child care, groceries, even a spot for eating out (seems ridiculous to factor in eating out but whatever!)
One of the options at the top of #13 (average monthly expenses) says "Proposed needs."
Why wouldn't child care be a proposed need if I will be working soon?
I am trying to prevent from going back to court in a month once I start an out of the home job.
If I must, then I must.

 

[CourtClerk]

Were talking about my 3 children. Not someone else s.
I don't have an issue with things changing here. I don't have an issue with being imputed an income. I have been an at home with my kids for many years and it's due time.
The photography business has not been lucrative enough to keep it gong and the BF can indeed do the work I do, on his own. For that matter I could still pay the bills for the business even if I work full time. No big deal.
I will be delving into the work world based on no formal education and having not worked (officially) for 13 or more years. (Yep, should have been doing some schooling during that time. I know)
Now is now.
So once my income is imputed, I go to work and acquire child care for my youngest, I will have to return to court to factor in the cost of child care?
As far as uniforms and "other costs" I see clearly on "Income and Expense Declaration" spots for things like laundry, cleaning, child care, groceries, even a spot for eating out (seems ridiculous to factor in eating out but whatever!)
One of the options at the top of #13 (average monthly expenses) says "Proposed needs."
Why wouldn't child care be a proposed need if I will be working soon?
I am trying to prevent from going back to court in a month once I start an out of the home job.
If I must, then I must.

Even though you list the expenses, they are not counted - and last I checked, WalMart or some other retail job don't really require expensive uniforms. The 3 children ALSO belong to your boyfriend. HE needs to support his kids. You don't have proposed needs, you have actual expenses.

And again, YOU DON'T GET A CREDIT FOR CHILDCARE FOR SOMEONE ELSE'S CHILD. Your boyfriend can pay for childcare for his child. YOU have to pay for the children you decided to have before you shacked up with your boyfriend and kept procreating. If anything, you'd get a hardship deduction for the child(ren) you had with your boyfriend, BUT THAT'S IT.

 

[californiamom3]

And again, YOU DON'T GET A CREDIT FOR CHILDCARE FOR SOMEONE ELSE'S CHILD. Your boyfriend can pay for childcare for his child. YOU have to pay for the children you decided to have before you shacked up with your boyfriend and kept procreating. If anything, you'd get a hardship deduction for the child(ren) you had with your boyfriend, BUT THAT'S IT.

The 3 children are from my 11 year marriage with my ex.
I do not have children with my bf.
The point wasn't really about uniforms. For the most part it's about child care.
The average cost of summertime care in my town is more than $500/mo.
I'm pretty sure that I can't pay for that on my own, while looking for a job or begin working. Since DAD and I are required to split child care costs....I wanted to know if I could "propose" those costs?

 

[CourtClerk]

The 3 children are from my 11 year marriage with my ex.
I do not have children with my bf.
The point wasn't really about uniforms. For the most part it's about child care.
The average cost of summertime care in my town is more than $500/mo.
I'm pretty sure that I can't pay for that on my own, while looking for a job or begin working. Since DAD and I are required to split child care costs....I wanted to know if I could "propose" those costs?

No, you can't PROPOSE costs that don't exist. When the children get into childcare, then you two will split those costs. You don't know what an I&E does, and that's part of your problem.

Ultimately, they will look at your income. Since you have none, then you will be imputed. You don't get fantasy expenses.

 

[californiamom3]

No, you can't PROPOSE costs that don't exist. When the children get into childcare, then you two will split those costs. You don't know what an I&E does, and that's part of your problem.

Ultimately, they will look at your income. Since you have none, then you will be imputed. You don't get fantasy expenses.

Correct, I do not know what an I&E does. This is my first time. That's why I'm asking.
After divorce dad was absent for a couple of years and then fled the country for another 5 years. I haven't had to deal with any of this until now...his return.
He has asked me to forgive some or all of arrears (67grand) in exchange for NOT asking that my income be imputed.
I am prepared for my income to be imputed.
Now I know the facts.
Thank you.