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Based on the (lack of) communication skills presented by this OP, it is very unlikely that they ever met the eligibility requirements for the NJ Stars Scholarship.
Are you kidding? Do you have any idea what kind of students our high schools are producing nowadays? Plus, I've known far more educated people who write worse than the OP. Doing well in high school doesn't make him Hemingway.

Furthermore, the OP's dependent status would have no direct effect on the scholarship. OP would have to fill out the FAFSA. The scholarship would cover anything NOT covered by financial aid.
Financial aid directly affects the scholarship, and a parent's income directly affects financial aid if that parent supports the student.
 


justalayman

Senior Member
Are you kidding? Do you have any idea what kind of students our high schools are producing nowadays? Plus, I've known far more educated people who write worse than the OP. Doing well in high school doesn't make him Hemingway.


Financial aid directly affects the scholarship, and a parent's income directly affects financial aid if that parent supports the student.
from the NJ stars website:

If a student receives financial aid, NJ STARS will cover the remaining cost of tuition and fees. If a student is not eligible for financial aid, NJ STARS will cover the entire cost.
If you want to go there, you will see to qualify, one must meet the other requirements which happen to be academic achievement.
 
from the NJ stars website:



If you want to go there, you will see to qualify, one must meet the other requirements which happen to be academic achievement.
I don't get it. Are you guys really claiming that anybody who meets the academic requirements necessarily must be a good writer?
 

justalayman

Senior Member
I don't get it. Are you guys really claiming that anybody who meets the academic requirements necessarily must be a good writer?
No but one would expect a person that is in the top 15% of their class to be a fair writer. The original post is simply riddled with so many spelling and grammatical errors that either the writer is not all there, if you know what I mean, or it was intentional. The intentional posts like that are very often written by trolls.

Another clue is the OP has not posted since.

Another clue is IP addresses are recorded and some people have access to company secrets.

Another clue is the OP is simply wrong in their claim. Their scholarship would not have been revoked due to the reason OP claimed yet, OP claimed what they did.
 
Another clue is the OP is simply wrong in their claim. Their scholarship would not have been revoked due to the reason OP claimed yet, OP claimed what they did.
I disagree with that. It appears that the OP needs to complete a FAFSA and apply for all financial aid available. The FAFSA requires the parents to provide their financial data, and financial aid opportunities are based on their income. If OP's parents refuse to provide their financial data for the FAFSA, then the OP can only file the FAFSA under very limited circumstances, such as if he's completely independent. However, if his parents claimed him on their taxes, then that claim seems to go out the window.

As for being a good writer, I just don't have the same faith that you do in what it takes to be in the top 15% of a high school class. When kids are being pushed through schools and graduating without being able to read and write anything (it really happens), I don't know why it's so hard to believe that a student could be in the top 15% of his class and yet have poor writing skills.

In any event, this topic seems dead, so I'm out.
 

Humusluvr

Senior Member
I disagree with that. It appears that the OP needs to complete a FAFSA and apply for all financial aid available. The FAFSA requires the parents to provide their financial data, and financial aid opportunities are based on their income. If OP's parents refuse to provide their financial data for the FAFSA, then the OP can only file the FAFSA under very limited circumstances, such as if he's completely independent. However, if his parents claimed him on their taxes, then that claim seems to go out the window.

As for being a good writer, I just don't have the same faith that you do in what it takes to be in the top 15% of a high school class. When kids are being pushed through schools and graduating without being able to read and write anything (it really happens), I don't know why it's so hard to believe that a student could be in the top 15% of his class and yet have poor writing skills.

In any event, this topic seems dead, so I'm out.
I'm going to have to agree with you on this one. Writing skills are definitely lacking in students these days, and with a fair amount of students writing from their phones, they lack grammar, punctuation, and capitalization. And the post seemed to be written off-handed, so the OP just may have not put all that much into it. They may know, in the back of their heads, that they can't get anything out of their parents.

It's a shame to see a culture of students so dependent on financial aid. They are ill-prepared for college, and completely unready to pay for it. In these dire economic circumstances, that financial aid may be their only means of survival, and it's not meant to be that way.
 

justalayman

Senior Member
CameronNewport;2562781]I disagree with that. It appears that the OP needs to complete a FAFSA and apply for all financial aid available. The FAFSA requires the parents to provide their financial data, and financial aid opportunities are based on their income. If OP's parents refuse to provide their financial data for the FAFSA, then the OP can only file the FAFSA under very limited circumstances, such as if he's completely independent. However, if his parents claimed him on their taxes, then that claim seems to go out the window.
First, OP never claimed the parents refused to provide the info for the FAFSA. Second, since the NJ stars program covers financial need not covered by other financial aid, OP fills out FAFSA with what info he has, gets refused and viola`, NJ stars to the rescue.

As for being a good writer, I just don't have the same faith that you do in what it takes to be in the top 15% of a high school class.
apparently schools quit teaching students anything after I graduated but I doubt it.

When kids are being pushed through schools and graduating without being able to read and write anything (it really happens), I don't know why it's so hard to believe that a student could be in the top 15% of his class and yet have poor writing skills.
While it does happen, it is not the norm.

In any event, this topic seems dead, so I'm out.
and yet, you seem to miss how the fact the OP has not returned tends to support the probability this is a troll post.
 

stealth2

Under the Radar Member
Uuuuh... The NJ Stars program will likely NOT be funded for the 2010-11 school year. Every kid in my son's graduating class who was counting on that money has been told they need to find alternate sources of funding. So OP may well be spitting into the wind, anyway.

And, I'm sorry. But if you're in the top 15% of your graduating class and expect ME to help pay for your college education (on top of my own kid's)? Yes, I expect you to be able to communicate with some degree of literacy.
 
First, OP never claimed the parents refused to provide the info for the FAFSA.
A pointless observation ...

Second, since the NJ stars program covers financial need not covered by other financial aid, OP fills out FAFSA with what info he has, gets refused and viola`, NJ stars to the rescue.
Apparently, you haven't yet figured out that absent some very limited circumstances, the FAFSA must contain the parent's info, or it's simply not accepted, and the student cannot apply for financial aid. Of course, applying for financial aid is a requirement for the scholarship.

and yet, you seem to miss how the fact the OP has not returned tends to support the probability this is a troll post.
A lot of people don't return.
 

justalayman

Senior Member
=CameronNewport;2563593]
A pointless poster...


Apparently, you haven't yet figured out that absent some very limited circumstances, the FAFSA must contain the parent's info, or it's simply not accepted, and the student cannot apply for financial aid. Of course, applying for financial aid is a requirement for the scholarship.
are you this dense? The point is to file the thing knowing there would be no financial aid via those sources so, since the program picks up where others fail, NJ picks it all up.


A lot of people don't return.
and we are still hoping that applies to you Cameron, still hoping.
 
are you this dense? The point is to file the thing knowing there would be no financial aid via those sources so, since the program picks up where others fail, NJ picks it all up.
You clearly lack knowledge about the FAFSA. Your suggestion is not the equivalent of applying for financial aid and being turned down. It's the equivalent of throwing the FAFSA in the trash and not applying for anything.

I love the personal attacks from you and the others, though. People with strong positions don't need to rely on ad hominems. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. :)
 
In fact, justalayman, despite your ignorance about the FAFSA, common sense should tell you that you're wrong. Under your theory, a student who otherwise qualifies for the scholarship could easily get out of having any student loans (thereby having everything paid for by the State) by purposely filing an incomplete FAFSA and then claiming that he didn't qualify for financial aid. Do you really think the people who set up the scholarship are that stupid?
 
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Proserpina

Senior Member
You clearly lack knowledge about the FAFSA. Your suggestion is not the equivalent of applying for financial aid and being turned down. It's the equivalent of throwing the FAFSA in the trash and not applying for anything.

I love the personal attacks from you and the others, though. People with strong positions don't need to rely on ad hominems. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. :)

Please humor me.

What are your qualifications again? :confused:
 

justalayman

Senior Member
In fact, justalayman, despite your ignorance about the FAFSA, common sense should tell you that you're wrong. Under your theory, a student who otherwise qualifies for the scholarship could easily get out of having any student loans (thereby having everything paid for by the State) by purposely filing an incomplete FAFSA and then claiming that he didn't qualify for financial aid. Do you really think the people who set up the scholarship are that stupid?
they're from New Jersey Cameron!! What do you think?

and to think nobody scams the system; how naive`.

and you said you were leaving. So now, not only are you a bore, you are a lying bore.
 
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