• FreeAdvice has a new Terms of Service and Privacy Policy, effective May 25, 2018.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our Terms of Service and use of cookies.

Theft or Missing

Accident - Bankruptcy - Criminal Law / DUI - Business - Consumer - Employment - Family - Immigration - Real Estate - Tax - Traffic - Wills   Please click a topic or scroll down for more.

Zigner

Senior Member, Non-Attorney
I have to. As I said earlier, most crime happen because of some lapse on victim's (or some one other then the criminal) side. For example, a plane is hijacked because some security person was not smart enough.
And yes, I have to agree that for those few minutes I was not smart enough.
Good that I am able to convince you ... finally
Terrible comparison for the VICTIMS of this crime. Tell me, what can a passenger do to prepare themselves? Uh-oh - your prior theory that EVERY crime can be blamed on the victim just went out the window!
 


KnownOne

Member
Though I am certain my proposition for marriage with MA_tenant will cloud my judgment and enhance my bias, I would like to make a few notes on this enormous thread.



Thank you
 

MA_tenant

Member
Terrible comparison for the VICTIMS of this crime.
Read again what I wrote "most crime happen because of some lapse on victim's (or some one other then the criminal) "

Tell me, what can a passenger do to prepare themselves?
Passenger can remain home and not travel :rolleyes: That is what people are preaching in this thread. On a serious note, NOT passengers but security people (who are NOT part of criminal gang) lapsed on their duty.


Uh-oh - your prior theory that EVERY crime can be blamed on the victim just went out the window!
Read again ... I said MOST not EVERY. With logics as being floated in this thread, a victim can of course be blamed for most crime ... the victim went to wrong place at wrong time and was not careful
 

Zigner

Senior Member, Non-Attorney
Read again what I wrote "most crime happen because of some lapse on victim's (or some one other then the criminal) "



Passenger can remain home and not travel :rolleyes: That is what people are preaching in this thread. On a serious note, NOT passengers but security people (who are NOT part of criminal gang) lapsed on their duty.




Read again ... I said MOST not EVERY. With logics as being floated in this thread, a victim can of course be blamed for most crime ... the victim went to wrong place at wrong time and was not careful
Your post is barely intelligible. Good day to you - and, to paraphrase, keep your bags close and your enemies closer!
 

JustAPal00

Senior Member
Sure. But still things do happen. That is why you buy insurance.
I did not come to the forum to have a lecture on "how I should have secured it". Thieves make a day because of momentary lapse of their victim's attention.
No, you asked how to argue that your bag was stolen and not missing, and you have been told repeatedly by numerous people that you need to be able to provide details of the theft that you can't. You didn't see someone take it and there is no proof that it was stolen instead lost. Without either a witness seing it being stolen, or some kind of physical evidence proving theft, you have no proof. Thus you have no argument!
 

MA_tenant

Member
Your post is barely intelligible.
Not everybody can understand everything. Not everybody knows how things happen in world (like you did not know that carry on bags are tagged and even stamped with security checked stamp in many countries)


Good day to you - and, to paraphrase, keep your bags close and your enemies closer!
Thanks for your advice. If everybody follow your advice 100% of time with not even a momentary lapse, insurance companies will soon shut their business.
 
Last edited:

MA_tenant

Member
No, you asked how to argue that your bag was stolen and not missing, and you have been told repeatedly by numerous people that you need to be able to provide details of the theft that you can't. You didn't see someone take it and there is no proof that it was stolen instead lost. Without either a witness seing it being stolen, or some kind of physical evidence proving theft, you have no proof. Thus you have no argument!
And as I provided the analogy, in cases of pick pocket there is rarely a witness or physical evidence. So that is never a theft per your logic ! Some logic I must say !
And as I asked you number of times, if it was not stolen where did it vanish in a tight security area like airport ?
 

KnownOne

Member
MA_tenant, you have much to do with reforming your attitude. This is not the place to bring sissy pansy crap - we are all business with balls. I suggest you make appropriate apologies to Zigner and anyone else who may be potentially offended.

If you are so unhappy with the world, perhaps you should try relaxing and escaping into imagination. This always helps me: Imagine a perfect, clear blue day. You're lying on your back against a cloud as a dump truck full of kittens hovers slightly above. When ready, allow the door to unlatch and all the kittens to fall on you. Few things in this world are so soothing to the mind.

Happinesses to Helpings,
KnownOne
 

MA_tenant

Member
MA_tenant, you have much to do with reforming your attitude. This is not the place to bring sissy pansy crap - we are all business with balls. I suggest you make appropriate apologies to Zigner and anyone else who may be potentially offended.
I am sorry but if people do not know how things happen in world and pose to be expert , I can't help.
I do admit I have come to wrong place. I thought it is a forum for legal help but looks like people are just advising on How I should have protected my assets . I see the "business with balls" . Have a good time.
 

JustAPal00

Senior Member
And as I provided the analogy, in cases of pick pocket there is rarely a witness or physical evidence. So that is never a theft per your logic ! Some logic I must say !
And as I asked you number of times, if it was not stolen where did it vanish in a tight security area like airport ?
And a pick pocket crime would be just as difficult to prove. Typically unless the theif is cought with the wallet it will go unsolved. Look you seem to have all the answers. Seems someone as brilliant as yourself would have known better than to set a bag full of money down in a third world country.
 

Find the Right Lawyer for Your Legal Issue!

Fast, Free, and Confidential
data-ad-format="auto">
Top