what rights do I have as the father of an unborn child?

[acmb05]

He has to first know when the child is born in order to do that...and appearantly mom is not telling him that

That will be in the court order for the DNA test. It will be ordered to be done as soon as the child is born. Whether dad knows when that is or not if the judge orders it and mom does not do it she will be in contempt.

 

[cyjeff]

What's your problem? WHy are you so angry at infantcustody?

Because she is making it clear that access to the child is upon her sufferage only... and that isn't how this works.

Yes, until a court order, dad can't insist. But Dad going to court and telling the nice judge person the hoops that are insisted upon to gain custody are going to paint mom in such a bad light that mom is really going to hate what happens next.

I am talking "dad gets custody" kind of hate what happens next. Custodial parenting is both a privilege and a responsibility... guess who isn't playing nice with others in this story?

Why do you guys think "marriage" is the answer to everything....appearantly not if this board is filled with people who are, have, or aregetting a divorce....please...

Never said that.

I will admit that marriage makes the law much easier to navigate, but I don't remember saying anything about it.

Project your own insecurities much?

Infantcustody can do what she wants until the COURTS determine the rights of the father..

Yeah. Said that.

Ya'll get on my nerves with that crap....Infantcustody can do what she damn well please UNTIL THE COURTS DECIDE! just like the assumed father can do what he damn please and act foolish most times

And that's my point. Apparently mom is assumed to be doing what is in the child's best interests and dad is just acting foolish for not accepting that.

Wow.

I also recommend you google "Texas Putative Fatherhood Registry".

Start HERE...

Bureau of Vital Statistics
Texas Department of Health
1100 West 49th
Austin, TX, 78756
Tel: 1-888-963-7111, ext. 7782 or 512-458-7782

 

[stepmom4ever]

Um, you are bit out of line, legally yes Mom does not have to do anything but morally...that's a different story. I am quite far from perfect myself however hon, you need to take a step back here and bring back the venom. Seriously.

If more people would take a step back and act like in the best interests of the children and stop thinking about their wounded egos and bruised self esteem, then married or not, no one would need the courts involved period.

Well, obviously that's not the case in this situation and if mom dosen't want to be moral she doesn't have to, hell, men aren't never moral in doing what they do...Way to go mom!!! I wouldn't tell him nothing either...let him figure it out on his own

 

[Rushia]

Well, obviously that's not the case in this situation and if mom dosen't want to be moral she doesn't have to, hell, men aren't never moral in doing what they do...Way to go mom!!! I wouldn't tell him nothing either...let him figure it out on his own

Your bitterness is showing, my dear. Morality is not your forte, don't even go there.

 

[Isis1]

Well, obviously that's not the case in this situation and if mom dosen't want to be moral she doesn't have to, hell, men aren't never moral in doing what they do...Way to go mom!!! I wouldn't tell him nothing either...let him figure it out on his own

You still have some growing up to do. She who enters into hospital rooms uninvited.

 

[LdiJ]

That will be in the court order for the DNA test. It will be ordered to be done as soon as the child is born. Whether dad knows when that is or not if the judge orders it and mom does not do it she will be in contempt.

In most states dad cannot file anything at all until after there is a live birth. I have never heard of TX being a state where someone could file something before the child was even born.

There was one case posted here some years back where a WA case was able to be filed and some orders were made prior to the birth of a child, but I think that's the only one we have seen here.

The rest of this is just a general comment on the thread.

The bottom line is that until paternity is established and there are court orders an unwed mother is in total control. Whether or not a judge will ding her for either not allowing visitation or only allowing visitation on her terms really depends on the nature of the circumstances.

Morally, I am sure that in most circumstances the right thing to do would be to encourage the father to be involved. However, stepmotherforever's case is one prime example of why someone wouldn't encourage the father to be involved...and where we wouldn't blame them. We are also a legal forum and we are supposed to be focusing on legalities.

 

[acmb05]

Well, obviously that's not the case in this situation and if mom dosen't want to be moral she doesn't have to, hell, men aren't never moral in doing what they do...Way to go mom!!! I wouldn't tell him nothing either...let him figure it out on his own

Wow are we bitter this morning, bad Holiday weekend?

Let me tell you about morals, this was my ex's holiday weekend. I made plans to spend time with my aunt because her sister/my mother passed away last week. My ex kept 2 of the kids (didn't want to be bothered by the two oldest) for exactly 7 hours on Thursday to eat dinner with them and then called me at my aunts to tell me she was dropping them off because she had plans with her new boy toy's family and since they don't have any kids she didn't want to take hers cause they would have nothing to do.Instead her and boytoy went out of town cause he didn't have his kids this weekend either. She never returned to pick them back up for her weekend, no phone call or anything.

So don't be going off on your rampage about how men are always immoral. Some woman are a lot worse.

 

[stepmom4ever]

That will be in the court order for the DNA test. It will be ordered to be done as soon as the child is born. Whether dad knows when that is or not if the judge orders it and mom does not do it she will be in contempt.[/QUOTE


Whatever, then she should be in contempt...it's her body she dont have to let him know him know nothing about her damn body! No one can make you tell them when their due date is..... He need to wait until the mom feel like telling him that's all

 

[acmb05]

In most states dad cannot file anything at all until after there is a live birth. I have never heard of TX being a state where someone could file something before the child was even born.

Well then you would be wrong on that.

There was one case posted here some years back where a WA case was able to be filed and some orders were made prior to the birth of a child, but I think that's the only one we have seen here.

Oh so since we have never had a case like hat on here the law does not exist?

The rest of this is just a general comment on the thread.

The bottom line is that until paternity is established and there are court orders an unwed mother is in total control. Whether or not a judge will ding her for either not allowing visitation or only allowing visitation on her terms really depends on the nature of the circumstances.

Morally, I am sure that in most circumstances the right thing to do would be to encourage the father to be involved. However, stepmotherforever's case is one prime example of why someone wouldn't encourage the father to be involved...and where we wouldn't blame them. We are also a legal forum and we are supposed to be focusing on legalities.

And the lagality is dad can file before the child is born to have a dna test done when the child is born.

 

[stepmom4ever]

Because she is making it clear that access to the child is upon her sufferage only... and that isn't how this works.

Yes, until a court order, dad can't insist. But Dad going to court and telling the nice judge person the hoops that are insisted upon to gain custody are going to paint mom in such a bad light that mom is really going to hate what happens next.

I am talking "dad gets custody" kind of hate what happens next. Custodial parenting is both a privilege and a responsibility... guess who isn't playing nice with others in this story?



Never said that.

I will admit that marriage makes the law much easier to navigate, but I don't remember saying anything about it.

Project your own insecurities much?



Yeah. Said that.



And that's my point. Apparently mom is assumed to be doing what is in the child's best interests and dad is just acting foolish for not accepting that.

Wow.

I also recommend you google "Texas Putative Fatherhood Registry".

Start HERE...

Bureau of Vital Statistics
Texas Department of Health
1100 West 49th
Austin, TX, 78756
Tel: 1-888-963-7111, ext. 7782 or 512-458-7782

DAd wont get custody of a baby that's not even freaking here yet!! and when the baby is born the courts cant just say hey push the baby out and then give it straight to dad because she doesnt want to talk to dad...whatever!

 

[acmb05]

DAd wont get custody of a baby that's not even freaking here yet!! and when the baby is born the courts cant just say hey push the baby out and then give it straight to dad because she doesnt want to talk to dad...whatever!

Are you off your meds?

 

[stepmom4ever]

Well then you would be wrong on that.

Oh so since we have never had a case like hat on here the law does not exist?



And the lagality is dad can file before the child is born to have a dna test done when the child is born.

Hey lady, man, whatever...... dad has to first KNOW when the baby is born....how is he gonna find that out if the mom wont tell him? Sure he can get a court ordered DNA AFTER the baby is born, BUT he needs to find out WHEN the baby will arrive

 

[acmb05]

Hey lady, man, whatever...... dad has to first KNOW when the baby is born....how is he gonna find that out if the mom wont tell him? Sure he can get a court ordered DNA AFTER the baby is born, BUT he needs to find out WHEN the baby will arrive

Are you hard headed or just stupid. The court will make darn sure they know when the baby is born.

 

[acmb05]

Are you my doctor now? You can now determine if I'm on meds or not?

No, but for some reason you are being highly vindictive this morning for no reason whatsoever. You are not helping the OP in any way by your little rants.

 

[Rushia]

Are you my doctor now? You can now determine if I'm on meds or not?

Obviously something is wrong. You haven't gone this far round the bend since you first came here. You are being stubborn and quite frankly...a jerk. STOP.