Thank you LdiJ, I didn't know I couldn't use an old fashioned cliche or be a person of anything other than a mainstream faith on here. I came on seeking some legal advice and have pretty much been attacked by 2 of the people and half way by a 3rd. By the way we are married now so it is at least partially my business for those who felt the need to use that as ammo, and also I have never said a cross word to their dad, nor did I force anyone to a conversion to my faith, and I have stood idly by while this situation unfolded and this post on here was as much legal interferance as I have done. But I am gonna try and borrow the money to pay for her attorney so we can fight for custody. Also for those who wanted her to join and seek advice for herself, the attacks on me intimidated her into deciding against it. If she wants to be verbally assaulted she can just call the kids dads. Thank you to all those who genuinely were willing to help her if she had joined, I hope G_d blesses you richly, to those who attacked me and berated me (at stealth in particular) I hope your mind is able to expand and you are blessed with an impartation of the truth and his spirit. To all have a blessed day!