Schools confiscating cell phones

[TheGeekess]

There's a difference between finding out who the provider is and finding out who signed the contract for that number. I agree it's easy to figure out who the provider is.

None of you have actually backed up your claims that the information about account holders can be obtained.

I'm still sure that a school can not call a cell phone provider and say to them "who's number is this?"

So how else are they gonna do it?

Involve the local law enforcement. Duh.

 

[jchasex]

Yeah, cos the cops are sitting around waiting for this case.

 

[TheGeekess]

Yeah, cos the cops are sitting around waiting for this case.

Indeed, I'm sure your school's resource officer is already involved. That's one of the reasons they're there.

 

[jchasex]

Indeed, I'm sure your school's resource officer is already involved. That's one of the reasons they're there.

And what laws have we broken that gives them the powers to have the cell phone company hand out the info?

 

[justalayman]

jchasex;2947388]There's a difference between finding out who the provider is and finding out who signed the contract for that number. I agree it's easy to figure out who the provider is.

You are missing the point. The point is: the information is not private nor privileged information and and such, does not require a court order for the provider to release the associated name.

None of you have actually backed up your claims that the information about account holders can be obtained.

actually, you need to provide proof that it isn't. That is how the law works. It is restrictive, not permissive. Anything is possible as long as the long does not restrict the actions.

I'm still sure that a school can not call a cell phone provider and say to them "who's number is this?"

sure they can and the provider can give the information if they desire. That is the point.

So how else are they gonna do it?

trade secrets

 

[CdwJava]

There's a difference between finding out who the provider is and finding out who signed the contract for that number. I agree it's easy to figure out who the provider is.

None of you have actually backed up your claims that the information about account holders can be obtained.

I'm still sure that a school can not call a cell phone provider and say to them "who's number is this?"

So how else are they gonna do it?

There are private sites that can do that ... the police can do that ... it is not all that difficult if you have a few dollars. Some providers are more secure than others, some not at all. And if the police get involved, a subpoena can certainly get the info.

 

[TheGeekess]

There are private sites that can do that ... the police can do that ... it is not all that difficult if you have a few dollars. Some providers are more secure than others, some not at all. And if the police get involved, a subpoena can certainly get the info.

I've googled a few cell phone numbers, too.

 

[jchasex]

sure they can and the provider can give the information if they desire. That is the point.

I actually very seriously doubt this.

trade secrets

And it's answers like this that have me calling bs.

I just put my number into a reverse phone number finder and it said "opps! looks like you've entered an invalid number" - so those things ain't 100%

I can see how police and a subpoena would do it...but why would they be involved?

I don't think the school is gonna go the extra yards and put too much time and money into this.

And you don't get me if you google my number or search it on social networks.

 

[justalayman]

jchasex;2947430]I actually very seriously doubt this.

You doubt it? be my guest. I have nothing to prove to you. As I said, provide legal support for what a service provider could not give out the information if they desire. Have you read a cellphone contract? anything in there about privacy?

And it's answers like this that have me calling bs.

call BS all you want.

I'll tell you what; post your phone number and somebody here will most likely be able to provide who the contracted owner is.

 

[jchasex]

Have you read a cellphone contract? anything in there about privacy?

Hang on, I'm tracking one down online.

I'll tell you what; post your phone number and somebody here will most likely be able to provide who the contracted owner is.

yeah ok, that sounds like a good way to stay safe online. Yeah, I want a bunch of strangers calling me and sending me creepy texts.

 

[Isis1]

OP, there is NO LAW that prohibits the company to give out name and numbers of thier customers. they absolutely CAN.

if they chose not to, that is the cell phone company's decision. they can simply say, not without a subpeona. but they are not required by law to say no.

 

[justalayman]

yeah ok, that sounds like a good way to stay safe online. Yeah, I want a bunch of strangers calling me and sending me creepy texts.

maybe you are smarter than you sound.

 

[jchasex]

maybe you are smarter than you sound.

Of course.

Here ya go, read this and see if my school could then ring up and ask who's number it is:

https://www.t-mobile.com/company/website/privacypolicy.aspx#collectionuse

nope.

 

[justalayman]

Of course.

Here ya go, read this and see if my school could then ring up and ask who's number it is:

https://www.t-mobile.com/company/website/privacypolicy.aspx#collectionuse

nope.

is your phone a t-mobile phone?


but really?

Legal process & protection of T-Mobile and others. We may disclose personal information or communications where we believe in good faith such disclosure is necessary to comply with the law or respond to legal process (for example, lawful subpoena, court order, E-9-1-1 information); to enforce or apply agreements; to initiate, render, bill, and collect for services and products; to protect our rights or property; in connection with claims, disputes, or litigation; to protect users of our services and other carriers or providers from fraudulent, abusive, or unlawful use of, or subscription to, such services; to facilitate or verify the appropriate calculation of taxes, fees, or other obligations due to a local, state, or federal government;or if we determine disclosure is necessary in an emergency situation.

in other words:

if we deem it proper to release the information, we can and will.

I rescind my prior bestowing of a showing of intelligence.

 

[Isis1]

Of course.

Here ya go, read this and see if my school could then ring up and ask who's number it is:

https://www.t-mobile.com/company/website/privacypolicy.aspx#collectionuse

nope.

it's not a LAW. it's a company policy. if the school admin or a police officer talks to the right person, the right person CAN give the number out. regardless of the company policy. and they would NOT be breaking the law.